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#31 13-Aug, 2007 11:52 PM
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Gurpreet,

Looks aside, the Endeavour is leages ahead of the car it replaced. As for the Captiva and Outlander, the former has been undergoing real-world testing on our roads in a cloaked form and GM should make it available in the showrooms by the year-end to capitalise on the festive season. As for the Mitsu Outlander, the launch might be defered till early '08. Also, there is the new Safari coming in and you might just be interested in taking a look at it. Another really cracking vehicle is the Nissan X-Trail. It has a potent diesel motor under the hood, goes well, boasts of good quality, is pretty fuel efficient for a SUV and is pretty reliable too. The one major lacking thing from your set criteria - its not a 7-seater!

I saw the inclusion  of an auto tranny in your list, and my friend, I think you'll have to wait for quite a while to see a n automatic SUV in such a price bracket.




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#32 19-Aug, 2007 05:59 PM
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Hi Gurpreet!!
Thanks for reply. I also like Montero but it is not in my budget.
Now I am thinking about Nissan Xtrail or CRV. CRV is ok only problem is its effieciency. What are the drawbacks of its CNG conversion?

If you can wait till next years 1st quarter then I have one good news for you. Volkswagen is going to launch its Tiguan model in India also. Its a superb SUV with very rugged looks.

Enjoy driving!!


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#33 20-Aug, 2007 01:28 AM
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Manish, I doubt if the the Volkswagen Tiguan will be a 7 Seater, since it is a Mini SUV.

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#34 21-Aug, 2007 07:28 PM
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Hello Gurpreet!!,
I think you are right. Tiguan is a 5 seater SUV. Sorry I forgot.

Why dont you try 1 or 2 years old suv's in market like Montero or Taureg or X5? You will definitly get some good deal otherwise only Endeavour or Pajero suits you.

My requirement is not 7 seater and also I can go for car besides SUV. Thats why I am doing research on Laura (Only rear leg room and low ground clearance is a concern in this vehicle) and Pajero (Only problem is expensive parts and interiors ) & also CRV is in my mind.  With in a week or so I will check these vehicles. If you have any idea on these vehicles pls comment. My daily use is in between 40 to 50 kms and I love to travel a lot but I dont know whether I will go off road or not?

Thanks for reading


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#35 21-Aug, 2007 08:03 PM
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Manish, I suggest you check out the New Honda Accord v6 ... at it's price, it's a Steal ... a 3,000 cc engine at around Rs. 18 lacs, and that too from Honda ... what more do you want. I bought a Honda Accord v6 Automatic, in March, and I love it.

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#36 24-Aug, 2007 12:34 PM
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Captiva will be launched around April 2008. This is based on confirmed feedback from GM. It is expected to be priced in the range of 15-20 lac. However, Toyota Fortuner could be launched this year. maybe around Diwali. The Safari & the Scorpio (with new engine) is also slated for launch around Diwali this year.

Somehow, an 4X4 SUV with AT????????? I presume you will want to do off-roading with the 4X4. To enjoy your SUV you should go for MT and not AT.

Anyway its your money and choice. All the best.



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#37 29-Sep, 2007 01:01 AM
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Posted by Arjun Mukherjee

Captiva will be launched around April 2008. This is based on confirmed feedback from GM. It is expected to be priced in the range of 15-20 lac.

Hi Arjun! tahnks for the info .I too got a feedback from GM and i was told that the price of the captiva may even exceed the CR-V and the reason told was that it will be a diesel , 7 seater and bigger than the CR-V ??  I really dont know how will they sell a Chevrolet (daewoo) that is priced more than a Honda ... A ques only GM can answer .



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#38 08-Oct, 2007 06:04 PM
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I drove a Toyota 4Runner when in the US ... Haven't found anything as powerful, for that Price in India, yet !

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#39 09-Oct, 2007 06:57 PM
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Hi gurpreet and manish i am also sitting in the same boat trying to find exactly the same car.I called up toyota kirloskar office and was told that fotuner is expected somewhere around dec,08 or jan,09...However it would be launched in 2.5L diesel and 2.7L diesel and would be around 14-15 lacs.Captiva would be launched somewhere around march,09...

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#40 09-Oct, 2007 07:00 PM
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The 2.5L would be 102 BHP and 2.7 would be 138 BHP....Hope that toyota doesn't further delay the launch of fortuner...

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#41 10-Oct, 2007 10:15 AM
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I have checked the new Safari today. Very comfortable seats, nice looks, interiors ok, refined engine. Only problem is that its from TATA so small niggles are expected. But I am seriously thinking about it. My first choice till now is Pajero 2.8 but Safari is costing me just half of Pajero with good package. Should I go for Safari or wait for some more time? pls suggest friends.

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#42 10-Oct, 2007 09:14 PM
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I think you should ask your toyota dealer that when will fortuner be launched.In chandigarh dealer is saying that it would be launched at around jan,09.

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#43 10-Oct, 2007 11:12 PM
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yup sahil u  seem to be right ,me also heard jan 09 only

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#44 18-Oct, 2007 10:45 PM
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But toyota has already ditched the fortuner fans once in 2005....hope it doesn't do it again....

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#45 17-Dec, 2007 01:22 AM
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I'm looking for an SUV with the following requirements: Efficient Petrol engine + 7/8 seater + Affordable price (not the CRV range). Any suggestions?



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#46 17-Dec, 2007 10:08 AM
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Posted by Dhiraj

I'm looking for an SUV with the following requirements: Efficient Petrol engine + 7/8 seater + Affordable price (not the CRV range). Any suggestions?

Can sggest you to go for the Toyota Innvoa Diesel or the Safari Diesel

chhers,

Sri



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#47 17-Dec, 2007 10:54 AM
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Innova Diesel currently has 9/10 versions - price ranging from Rs.7.20 to 10.45 lac.  Safari Diesel has 6 versions - price ranging from Rs.6.60 to 11.60 lac.  Mileage of the Innova is approximately 10/11 in city & 14/15 on highway, while that of Safari is 9/10 in city & 13/14 on highway - depending on driving conditions & style.

I personally feel Innova is better.  You can consider Innova G1 or G4 series (total 5 versions). G1 2ltr will cost Rs.7.45 lac, G4 2ltr Rs.8.25 lac, G1 2.5ltr Rs.8.15 lac, G4 2.5ltr (7 seater) Rs.8.85 lac & G4 2.5ltr (8 seater) Rs.8.90 lac.  G4 series has better interiors & features than G1 series.




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#48 18-Dec, 2007 01:45 AM
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Pankaj/Sri - both of you have suggested Diesel options while I'm looking for a Petrol powered SUV...could you clarify if the petrol variants of both the options you mention will be a good bet too?

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#49 18-Dec, 2007 08:11 AM
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Dhiraj, Diesel engines are more sturdy, strong, have more load pulling capacity & longer life.  Therefore, especially in big cars, Diesel engines are more preferred than Petrol ones. Anyway, information on the petrol versions of the two cars in question are listed below:

  • Safari has 2 petrol versions, viz. 2.1 ltr 4x2 EXi will cost Rs.8.65 lac & 2.1 ltr 4x4 EXi will cost Rs.9.55 lac.  Both these will give mileage of 7/8 in city & 10/11 on highway.
  • Innova has 3 petrol versions, viz. 2 ltr G1 will cost Rs.7.45 lac, 2 ltr G4 will cost Rs.8.25 lac & 2 ltr V will cost Rs.9.75 lac.  All these will give mileage of 8.5/10 in city & 12.5/14 on highway.

In my opinion, between Safari & Innova petrol, Innova will be a better choice.  Between Innova Petrol & Diesel, Diesel will be a better choice - value for money.




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#50 18-Dec, 2007 09:30 AM
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Posted by Pankaj Prasad

Dhiraj, Diesel engines are more sturdy, strong, have more load pulling capacity & longer life.  Therefore, especially in big cars, Diesel engines are more preferred than Petrol ones. Anyway, information on the petrol versions of the two cars in question are listed below:

  • Safari has 2 petrol versions, viz. 2.1 ltr 4x2 EXi will cost Rs.8.65 lac & 2.1 ltr 4x4 EXi will cost Rs.9.55 lac.  Both these will give mileage of 7/8 in city & 10/11 on highway.
  • Innova has 3 petrol versions, viz. 2 ltr G1 will cost Rs.7.45 lac, 2 ltr G4 will cost Rs.8.25 lac & 2 ltr V will cost Rs.9.75 lac.  All these will give mileage of 8.5/10 in city & 12.5/14 on highway.

In my opinion, between Safari & Innova petrol, Innova will be a better choice.  Between Innova Petrol & Diesel, Diesel will be a better choice - value for money.

 

Yes you are  right pankaj ,

DHIRAJ  - also keep in mind about your fuel bills and resale value will be very low for Muvs and Suvs which are having petrol engine , the Diesel now a days are the best and almost similiar to petrol in performance

cheers,

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#51 15-Jan, 2008 03:48 PM
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Have you checked the new Tata Sumo Grande launched at this years Auto Expo in Delhi?It seems to be an amazing car from the specs and  seems to tower over all the others in the SUV category.


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#52 16-Jan, 2008 05:08 PM
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Posted by Vikram
Have you checked the new Tata Sumo Grande launched at this years Auto Expo in Delhi?It seems to be an amazing car from the specs and  seems to tower over all the others in the SUV category.


The grande is a good car n i guess the Scorpio is goin to be overtaken by the grande, since it launched before the scorpio.... n the scorpio is goin to cost more cos of the new interiors n steering wheel..... let wait n c


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#53 16-Jan, 2008 07:36 PM
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Posted by Vikram
Have you checked the new Tata Sumo Grande launched at this years Auto Expo in Delhi?It seems to be an amazing car from the specs and  seems to tower over all the others in the SUV category.

Well it looks good but as its from tatas stable , it wouldnot be intrseting as expected , thier main stratergy is on prcing and they will always pricethier cars in very cmpetitve manner

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#54 19-Jan, 2008 12:23 PM
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Posted by Sri Vsh

Well it looks good but as its from tatas stable , it wouldnot be intrseting as expected , thier main stratergy is on prcing and they will always pricethier cars in very cmpetitve manner

Cheers,

Sri



okay, but the car has the a stylish suv looks, n i guess its comfortable and is convenient for a family.



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#55 28-Jan, 2008 03:08 PM
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The price is competitive I agree atleast they dont be stingy on the looks.It looks pretty neat and for that price I guess it is pretty neat.


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#56 28-Jan, 2008 04:57 PM
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Not only that the Sumo grande not only looks better than the rest but it also comes in the 6+1 and 7+1 seating arrangement  


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#57 30-Jan, 2008 03:57 PM
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It also has this amazing new dicor engine which means it can also deliver a lot of power


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#58 30-Jan, 2008 04:27 PM
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According to my sources the DICOR engine is one of the best in the market. No other engine even comes close in comparison.


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#59 31-Jan, 2008 01:19 PM
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The new Dicor 2.2 is supposed to be the most powerful engine.This Engine is present in both the Sumo Grande and the safari.


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#60 18-Feb, 2008 06:11 PM
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Hi guys,

I am looking for an SUV with the following specifications:

3 rows of seats

Diesel Engine

4 - wheel drive

Price upto 19 lacs



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#61 18-Feb, 2008 06:30 PM
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Well with your budget you have already chosen the car - you should go for the GM Captiva - which has a 2.0 diesel engine, is a 7 seater and is an absolutely luxurious SUV - probably the best on the Indian roads below 20 lacs.


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#62 18-Feb, 2008 06:53 PM
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Yes, very true.  Captiva is priced Rs.18.62 lac (ex-showroom, Mumbai).  It has 1991 CC engine that generates power of 150ps @ 4000rpm & torque of 320nm @ 2000rpm.  Try this link to access other details & features of this SUV: http://www.carwale.com/Research/CarDetails-car-1295-bodyStyle-6.html




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#63 18-Feb, 2008 07:52 PM
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Is the Chevy Captiva 4WD because on the official website there is nothing mentioned like that.

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#64 18-Feb, 2008 08:28 PM
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Yes, Captiva is 4-wheel drive for sure.




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#65 18-Feb, 2008 09:26 PM
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Posted by Pankaj Prasad

Yes, Captiva is 4-wheel drive for sure.



I agree with Sohan's observation , its not very clear - I think it is not the 4WD model they have launched here, it is the 2 WD one.   This is based on the experience of the Honda CRV 2.4L 4WD which had horrible economy numbers resulting in their releasing the 2.0L 2WD model.   

Research shows that most SUV owners in India dont really need the 4WD option since they never take their expensive SUVs and drive out over fields and mountains without roads.

The Captiva is hence positioned as a luxury "rough roader" meant for the yuppie who likes to think he is the SUV type - NOT an off roader which has 4WD.

If you want a real true-blue off-roader, then you have to go with a Mitsubishi Pajero.


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#66 18-Feb, 2008 10:12 PM
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Just before it was launched I had read about it.  I distinctively remember it is “All-wheel drive” and has some specialized characteristics for safe/secure drive in rough & bad roads.




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#67 19-Feb, 2008 04:31 AM
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I have just rechecked, without doubt there is no 4WD in the Captiva.

The only options then for Sohan are Ford Endeavour and Mitsubishi Pajero - however if he is going to have a lot of 4WD use, then the Pajero is the best. 

For mostly city, highway use and limited 4WD, go for the Ford Endeavour.

If you dont really need 4WD, then Captiva is the best option.


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#68 19-Feb, 2008 09:47 AM
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Well... in that case I may be wrong / the article I read

Anyway, I'll try & re-check.




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#69 19-Feb, 2008 10:11 AM
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Pankaj,

Suryanarayan is right. Captiva may be an all-wheel-drive vehicle elsewhere but in India we have its two-wheel-drive version.

As far as Sohan's requirement specification is concerned, there are only two SUVs that match it: Endeavour 4x4 and Pajero. He will have to sacrifice at least one of the criteria in order to include a few more options.


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#70 19-Feb, 2008 10:38 AM
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Thanks Suryanarayan & Banwari for the update. 

In fact, I remembered distinctively because it said "All-wheel drive" instead of the conventional "4-wheel drive".  Anyway!

In the meantime, I went around searching on various sites & just couldn't find a word on it being a 4WD - not even on its official website.  Here's a link that provides beautifully all the information on Captiva: http://www.chevroletcaptivaindia.com/




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