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#1 30-Jun, 2009 05:50 PM
Amit
Long-termer




Here is a professional TD data for i20

It seems that many places it is said that i20 is underpowered but this professional TD show that 0-100 is 13.36 sec. which is very competitive with other cars in this class, IMO.  Furher,

FE (City) - 13.8 Kmpl

FE (Highway) - 18.5 Kmpl

Braking (80 Kmph - 0) is 26.86 meters, which is probably best in this class.  Even non-ABS does not lock wheels as easily as some other cars in hard braking.

Now go look at what the competition has to offer, go ahead take a look, and be amazed - Bertrand D'souza, OverDrive.

Remember, just looking at engine raw peak power (PS and NM), one can not predict performance, you need to see curve  Surprised.



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Last Updated: 30-Jun, 2009 06:01 PM, by Amit
#2 30-Jun, 2009 06:48 PM
Ami
City: Thrissur
Legend




It is based on the driving experiences that we call it as underpowered.

Still opinions vary as the term is totally subjective.



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#3 30-Jun, 2009 07:08 PM
Amit
Long-termer




Posted by Ami

It is based on the driving experiences that we call it as underpowered.

Still opinions vary as the term is totally subjective.

I agree.  At times, by reading things, we create a psycological bias and view, and loose our natural objectivity.  In this age of media hype and publicity round the clock, we get carried away and see things from the eyes (lens) of media.  It is well established that media has exploited facts in their commercial interest.



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Last Updated: 30-Jun, 2009 07:10 PM, by Amit
#4 30-Jun, 2009 07:42 PM
Vishal
City: Meerut
New Arrival




I would like to know the ground cleareance of i 20 ,value for money and after sales service and if money is not the matter ,the how far is honda jazz a car ,concerning resale value and if compared with i20



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Last Updated: 01-Jul, 2009 12:24 AM, by Pankaj Prasad
#5 30-Jun, 2009 10:43 PM
Amit
Long-termer




Posted by Vishal

I would like to know the ground cleareance of i 20 ,value for money and after sales service

 and if money is not the matter ,the how far is honda jazz a car ,concerning resale value and if compared with i20

It is strange but I have not seen GC #, please refer.  As far as ASS is concern in India, Hyundai and Maruti offer the best in most cities.  IMO, Hyundai ASS is little more professional in customer care than Suzuki.  Suzuki has a mind set of Maruti 800 era.  For other cars, ASS availability vary from city to city and may not be available in smaller cities.

Honda is a very fine car and Jazz is no exception.  Honda has the best image for innovation and refined quality product in this segment.  They deliver every time and set new benchmark.  Innovation cost money, so their product price is little higher than others due to   shared innovation cost.  IMO, Maruti 800 should cost less because its cost should reflect material + production + profit (ideally) but it is higher for 30 years due to limited supply and higher  demand in India, as a first car.  Further Maruti 800 is reproduced in so many other developing countries.  If Tata would have followed same principle, they would have easily kept the price of Nano 20K more and would have made extra profit in this segment.

However, if you see very carefully, the gap in product quality and innovation has narrowed with other world auto makers during last 10 years, but Honda is more original and a leader.  I hesitate to comment about their commitment to Indian market, so far.  They always introduce product in India after few years of global launch.  Indian people are bit disappointed because Jazz did not offer features like Alloy, tachometer etc., which customers expect in luxury h/b and their product is over 25% more expensive than say, i20 Asta and Punto Emotion pk.  But they all have their own unique, fine and practical features.  I am little disappointed that i20 does not offer instant and average FE display with their multi display unit, which they do in other market.


Newly launched Suzuki Ritz is one notch lower in category in comparison to other cars mentioned above, IMO.  As soon as you enter the Ritz, it will declare that it is little shorter (~ 9-10 inches) than others.  Ritz is the tallest and rides on the shortest wheelbase and you will notice that while driving.  Ritz offers all major noticeable features (ABS, airbags, alloy, cd player etc.) but lacks some fine and practical features.  We have yet to see how its new feature, tachometer in separate pod, is liked by customers.  But overall it is a fine car and VFM.


All cars in discussion are new in India, so it is hard to predict resale value with any meaningful accuracy.  In future, market forces, will decide resale value based on supply and demand.  But basic law of market will not be challenged, that is if you want to sell your 3 year old car which you got for 10 lakh and there are three potential customers VS you want to sell your 3  year old car which you got for 5 lakh and there are 20 potential customers, keeping other parameters same.

Overall, considering other things, one may say i20 offers better VFM but others are close too (?).  Some towns in India may not have facility of ASS for Fiat and Honda within 50 Km. and there they loose.

Bottom line is that i20 is not half as bad in terms of FE and performance as some media wants us believe.



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Last Updated: 30-Jun, 2009 10:53 PM, by Amit
#6 01-Jul, 2009 08:59 AM
Santhanam
City: New Delhi
Long-termer




Vishal,

Honda Jazz is the BEST supermini in the world according to many websites, (www.honestjohn.co.uk, BBC Top Gear, www.verdictoncars.com, JD Power what car survey (the best & No.1 for continuous 5 years in supermini segment and No.2 in overall ranking after Toyota Prius Hybrid) etc. But i20 (alongwith Fiat Grande Punto and Toyota Yaris) also features among the top five or top ten in all those websites in supermini category.  Regarding safety if you check up "Euro NCAP" 2009 test both i20 and Honda Jazz have bagged full five star ratings. According to me, if one can afford then go for Jazz, otherwise, i20 is fine.

Santhanam



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Last Updated: 01-Jul, 2009 09:00 AM, by Santhanam
#7 01-Jul, 2009 09:09 PM
Amit
Long-termer




Posted by Santhanam

Vishal,

... According to me, if one can afford then go for Jazz, otherwise, i20 is fine...

Santhanam

I fully agree, support and endorse your views, information and facts, Santhanam.  During last decade Indian auto market matured and we have best global cars available.  Reality and perception of 20th century about Indian auto industry is history.  India has crossed critical sale mass of 1 million cars a year.  Some excellent global cars may not do so good in India in terms of #, because of the perception that  their maintenance and parts are expensive or ASS is not available in medium Indian cities.  Probably, Hyundai commitment to India is much stronger than others and they launch new model and technology in India as soon as they launch it to world and they did this by introducing Santro..

According to Indian auto prices, if one can afford Honda Jazz then go for i20 Asta and get a Tata Nano FREE

You will be pleased that you got equally well equipped (if not better), quality and reliable car with good ASS in more cities.

I may sound like I am selling Hyundai cars but so far they have not given me a single penny.  Please write to Hyundai, so they send me a big fat check.



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#8 01-Jul, 2009 09:25 PM
Steeroid
Beloved




The interiors of the Jazz are not a patch on that of the i20.  IMHO the i20 is miles ahead on the quality and fit+finish front.

The Jazz has the Honda name which seeems to be revered in India.  It may be the best 'supermini' in Europe, but not with the 1.2 engine that we get and not at the unholy premium that they demand here.

Out there Honda has to fight to be seen, and so they offer better engines, probably better interiors and a more competitive price.




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#9 01-Jul, 2009 11:52 PM
Vishal
City: Meerut
New Arrival




hi  can still some one tell me the ground clearance of i120 .....,,,,

mileage in city ?

what about i10 as it has more power than 120 ,sm ppl say in discussions that i20 has tha same 1 10 engine and more of weight  so it feels under powered

that what about maruti swift  petrol ?

Post edited to remove bold format for better readability.



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Last Updated: 02-Jul, 2009 12:00 AM, by Pankaj Prasad
#10 01-Jul, 2009 11:59 PM
Pankaj Prasad
City: Bhavnagar




I think ground clearance of i20 is same as of i10 (170mm).

Yes, both have same engine & i10 (due to less weight) is peppier than i20.

Swift has more power & driving pleasure.  i20 has very decent performance & is a better car all in all.




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