New SX4 Vs Honda City

Hello friends,

sorry to not follow the thread for quite some time

as Ngrajan said

let us not forget to highlight the negatives of Honda City ALSO

please members please let us know the negatives of ANHC as well coz i am still focussed to buy ANHC SMT and want to share a this bit of information that i have managed to Rs. 20,000 discount on the same(still working on the deal)

waiting....................

Hello friends,

sorry to not follow the thread for quite some time

as Ngrajan said

let us not forget to highlight the negatives of Honda City ALSO

please members please let us know the negatives of ANHC as well coz i am still focussed to buy ANHC SMT and want to share a this bit of information that i have managed to Rs. 20,000 discount on the same(still working on the deal)

waiting....................

Hi ameet,

The only negative in HC ..in the old HC that i have driven ...is that the steering could do with a more feel . The drive could be more enjoyable. But then its better to have a light steering and less starin on hands than a 'manly' heavy steering.

I dont find any other major drawback(apart from pricing which is subjective....i mean if Premier can launch Rio diesel in 5L bracket then why not Dzire around same tag ? !)) in HC.

Thanx umesh

the reason, I am so certain to buy ANHC is

1. Quality

2. Second hand Honda cars always sell at a premium  (selling a tata indigo lx 4yrs old 4 Rs. 1,50,000/- really hurts)

2. I may b wrong, it is virtually a no maintenance car

Its only perceptive view.

Steering becomes more fun with increasing speeds of 20kmph.

Besides all said and done.

Its not about one man's Views that drives these companies products,The success and failure depends far more than one criteria keeping aside the price tag which only plays 50% of the role in any car's success or failure.

If all the points would have been as mentioned by one of the members were to be so true [could be an error in his vehicle alone] SX4 would have been the No.1 Flop of the decade and i mean it.

But it isnt!

I remember someone bringing out a problem in the CITY with lot of errors[same forum],Obviously one cannot Defame all the HONDAS running on indian Roads neither can one ignore the negatives of the City or any other make per se.

If there are problems they cant be generalised to all the cars to such an extent without having a solid ground!

The problems he mentioned could be technical issues only to his Vehicle alone,besides after a point no one can really pin point the amount of problems mentioned to the extent by the member.Its him who faced it not others.

Other technical stuff have been disgussed already.

If the success of cars or demands would have been practical enough,i think all the brands would have come up with STEERING WITH FEATHER TOUCH CONTROLS FOR THE EASE OF USE.

But that doesnt happen either,Nor its such a delicate piece of equipment that requires crores or even lakhs of money in the making.

There is some fine balance between ease and practicality versus what is required!

If it was considered so safe then i dont find any reason why the Power steering drive motor is made to disengage [not only in SUZUKIs PS but all MAnufacturers] from the steering after 40kmph speed.

Wanna know why?

Well its done for safety reasons.I think we have enough brains to make out why so if at all we have some brains left for discussions rather than bringing down/Or Glorifying something completely irrespective of the facts.

Few things left are just perceptional or i can say conditioned Reflex!

Ngrajan, I have only taken a short test drive of the City hence the very few lines about it. I have owned the SX4 for over 2 years and 40,000kms - I know the car inside out and I know what I am talking about. I don't know if giving a link to another forum is allowed here but do go through the below ownership thread, for those of you that think I am exgerrarating please read posts of other fellow owners listing down the same problems / niggles as I have faced in my SX4.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-drives-initial-ownership-reports/30691-maruti-suzuki-sx4-zxi-running-report.html

Doc, I hope you will read that extensive report and confirmations of similar problems from other owners with a open mind. Coming to your retort against my post, I don't expect the car's engine to have zero noise - even the S class is not that silent. When I say engine, wind, air , road noise is high , it's keeping in mind other C segment sedans and premium hatchbacks in mind. The part about suspension being tough because it's made to endure is really a weak explanation. Do you know why the suspension is so hard? The SX4 is a tall car / sedan - to keep body roll in check Maruti had to make the suspension hard or passengers would be sliding all over the seats so there is a design problem playing a part too but I am sure a major manufacturer could have worked a bit more to make the ride better. The SX4 is a premium product, you can't say that it's not a luxury sedan. This is exactly the reason why I keep saying that people are very willing to compromise for a Maruti but very critical of Tata , Ford, Chevy or Fiat.

Do take time to go through the report posted above with a open mind.

Thx a lot for ur rply specially amit doc and nagrajan.

 i think i have made up my mind to go for new SX4 ZXi . i hope and think dec is the best time as i will get gud discounts from dealer .

can anyone tell me which csd canteen or depot  will offer this car at cheapest rate?

i believe Chennai but then i have to get registration done in TN only as per rules .

Earlier i have planned it to buy it frrom Ahmadabad csd ,at 640372

registration at chandigarh will cost 10000

Logistics 5000, Insurance 20000 so in all it will cost me 6.85 lakhs.if u have any better choice or suggestion plz let me know ?

any idea about pondecherry ?

few told me this can be a gud option . i was trying no of pondecherry dealer but it is not working as of now. so once again thx for ur replys and if u can help me deciding the lace it will be of great help.

is it mandatory to pay logistics money to dealer ?

 i think dealer is supposed to pay this to company . plz educate me on this .

Shekhar

Its the satisfaction of ownership that counts irrespective of what if this or that!

Anyway,i know my vehicle and its capabilities amidst drawbacks which i sideline with the no of options i had.

Nobody is perfect and i really dont rely on posts exaggerated[Not the ones that are posted as link above] to extent that makes mockery of the whole concept.

No offence to anyone,but cant help defending what i have,an honest satisfied ownership!

Things are percieved little on the downside while reviewing in such a manner when someone is seeking a help or an honest gesture from the one being asked a question on these forums.

Keeping all this in mind,i would like SHekhar to come back to the forum after 3 months of ownership for a more detailed perspective on how he felt about the vehicle initially before owning but post replying to this thread and after having one for himself, The MANLY BEAST!

Doc, Which exgerrated posts are you talking about? And which posts in the link do you feel are honest? The link posted is my review of the SX4 I own and the niggling problems expereinced by me on my car have been expereinced by others also. You talk about making a mockery of the concept. Time and again, I have said that the SX4 concept was an absolute brilliant master stroke by Maruti. Anywhere else in the world a high sedan like this would be crazy but in India it's a master stroke of an idea. Problem lay in the execution, that's where Maruti could have exercised a bit more control. I know the SX4 sedan is avaliable in North America but American's by nature are very open minded people and take to many 'weird' concepts better then other races.

I agree that you have full right to defend your happy ownership expereince. In the same way, don't you think someone else who has not had a fully satisfied ownership expereince also has a right to express his displeasure? Why do you keep calling me biased in that case?

You ask Shekhar to come back after 3 months to update his long term ownership expereince. What if it isn't to your expectations? Will you call him biased? I ask that because I have posted my 2 years / 40,000 kms ownership expereince which wasnt to your liking and you keep calling me biased. In another thread, I have posted the invoice of my 40K service which came to almost Rs.9,200. No body commented on that. Maruti's are supposed to be cheap to maintain, when someone shows documentary evidence agaisnt it, everyone keeps quiet. Can you imagine the havoc it would cause if the car in question was a Fiesta, Aveo , Linea or Verna?

Your SX4 may be flawless. There maybe no jerking issue in your car but the suspension of all cars is hard and crude, noise levels are too high for a 8 lakh + car. The linked ownership report clearly shows that even Maruti acknowledged the jerking issue in many SX4's. That is a fact. Fact is that a lot of earlier SX4's came with niggling issues which was acknowledged by Maruti and that's why there was a recall on the car. Maybe you don't find the suspension hard or the noise too high but a lot and I really mean A LOT of people do. This is specially evident when you have 2 or more cars in your house and you wonder why one of your car's is quieter then SX4 when it costs much less then it!

I have said it earlier and I say it again. Maruti needs to work on the suspension and NVH of this car. SX4 buyers are not first time car buyers - Maruti needs to understand that. SX4 is also not a car that we expect to just take us from  Point A to B. Owner's expect much more intangible features from a 8 lakh+ rupee car. Right now, the car has absolutely no feel good factor associated with it. What Maruti needs to do is blow some passion in the car.