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#41 04-Nov, 2009 11:54 AM
Nipun Bharti
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Amit,such problems occur in all cars including your favourite NHC.My friend bought NHC with auto gears,thegears have failed and the vehicle was just out of warranty,1.4 lacs is estimate.I am a highly pleased user of SX4 ZXI for almost two yrs and 40000km ,no problem,no expense,and no fear of expensive spares in future.I have another Maruti for more than 3 yrs and same experience with that too.



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#42 04-Nov, 2009 12:11 PM
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Posted by Nipun Bharti

Amit,such problems occur in all cars including your favourite NHC.

The NHC and my favourite? I hate that car! The OHC Type II and the current ANHC are more of my type of cars.

Posted by Nipun Bharti
My friend bought NHC with auto gears,thegears have failed and the vehicle was just out of warranty,1.4 lacs is estimate.

Surprising for a Honda.

Posted by Nipun Bharti
I am a highly pleased user of SX4 ZXI for almost two yrs and 40000km ,no problem,no expense,and no fear of expensive spares in future.I have another Maruti for more than 3 yrs and same experience with that too.

My dad had a Maruti 800 in the 1990's. We used to stay in Valsad in Gujarat back then where traffic is horrendous, so bad that rarely would any car go into third gear while driving in city. When I left for Mumbai, the car had done 50,000+ kms on it's original clutch.

Quality has dipped in Maruti's there is no doubt about that. Having said that, let me add that my SX4 has never failed me till date. I can bank on it to take me 500kms and back without breaking down and that's important. My borther has a Octavia VRs and we don't trust that car to take us out of town and bring us safely back! But there are niggling issues that Maruti should sort out because a person buying a 8 lakh rupee car wants more then just point A to B transport. EPS is the first thing they need to sort out. Simply put it's rubbish. Suspension is another part and of course better QC on parts like clutch which are somehow prone to packing up on the SX4. The interiors should be better too. Commonality of parts is there between A-Star and SX4! A A-Star customer will obviously find the p/w console of high quality while the SX4 owner will find it downmarket and cheap. It's all about perceptions.



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#43 04-Nov, 2009 06:52 PM
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Even my family has a 7 year old Maruti 800, done about 70000kms. Clutch was changed at 55000kms. Only last month did it die on us the 1st time, 4 days shy of its 7th anniversary. It was a broken timing belt. But even 10.30 in the night, the car was towed to the service station by the service people.

The after sales service of Maruti is still the best. Its just immpossible to beleive that almost half the car buyers of our country are fools. The reason why we see more people who have had bad experiences with Maruti is probably because they actually sell a lot more cars than everybody else. Remeber their market share in the Indian market hovers about 55%.

Presently we are looking to shift to a new SX4, with other options as the Linea and the i20.



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#44 04-Nov, 2009 08:29 PM
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Checked with the dealer now.

He has still some old SX4 in stock and is willing to give more than 75k discount.

If the new SX4 is not much of refinement over the earlier one, can i go ahead and buy old version and avail discount.

Pl suggest



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#45 04-Nov, 2009 09:31 PM
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My advice : Check the manufacturing year of the old SX4s lying at the dealer's warehouse. My old Swift was manufactured in May 2006 and sold to me in January 2007(which i was unaware of till the date I thought of selling the car).

On looking in the RC book, I was told by Maruti True Value guys( part of the same buffoon dealership that sold me the car) that since the car was manufactured in 2006 and eventhough I bought it in 2007, it will still be counted as a 2006 model and the price would drop accordingly . man I was so pissed that time!!!! The buggers had the audacity to say "saar , if your car was manufactured in 2007, you would have got atleast 25,000 more". Or were those jokers taking me for a ride? Hyundai Advantage guys sad no such thing however.

So be careful. I was assured by the Hyundai dealer that my new i20 would be a freshly manufactured one on my order.




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#46 04-Nov, 2009 10:04 PM
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I bought Hyundai i10 Sportz On diwali day (17th Oct 2009).

The engine is of May 2009. Is this ok or should i take this up wit the dealer.



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#47 05-Nov, 2009 06:13 AM
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Selling old stock is an (again) 'old' trick in the dealers books. Almost all the small and mid level dealers does the same.

The people in the know would check the VIN before buying and get the same verified.

@Sandesh-sorry to hear about your plight

@Shekhar-nothing to worry as the 'model year' depends on the year of make rather than the month.

In effect a Jan 2009 car and Dec 2009 car will have the same market price(in practise it might be a little different as person to person negotiations can give better value for the Dec made car).



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#48 05-Nov, 2009 01:20 PM
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Posted by Amit

I hope Maruti has worked on the NVH, refinement, suspension and that absolutely rubbish EPS. Also, the car is practically dead till 2200-2500rpm, I hope VVT solves that issue too.

I own and have driven the SX4 for over 40,000kms.

- Engine mountings, driveshafts and clutch were changed under recall. It took me 20,000kms to convince Maruti that there is a jerking issue in my car. This was ultimately solved by changing the clutch but at 40,000kms the jerking is back. Looks like Maruti has started making clutches that last for only 20,000kms. In comparisio, I sold my Palio S10 with 75,000kms on the odo with the original clutch.

- Refinement is zero. There is too much of road, wind , suspension noise. At 120kmph it feels like I am sitting in a helicopter without doors!

- High speed stablitiy is very poor. At 120 and beyond I have to grab onto the steering hard to stop it from darting all over the road. Odd considering the hard suspension!

- Seems like Maruti forgot about suspension. It's bone jarringly hard. The car shakes up passengers like crazy!

- EPS is absolutely rubbish. As soon as I leave the steering, the car sometimes pulls to the right and sometimes to the left. Also, the power assistance is very weird. It sometimes gets hard at high speeds and sometimes hardens up on turns and curves. I complained about this to Maruti and they say that's how EPS is. I drove 2 wagon R's, 1 demo SX4 and 1 Zen estilo and all car exhibited the same behavior.

- Rattles appeared at 2500kms. Door panels vibrate at all speeds.

- Stereo speakers are crap. I need to crank upto 30 to hear anything!

- Boot refuses to close unless it's banged hard a few times. Maruti dealers say that's how all cars are!

Needless to add, this is the last Maruti I have bought. I also never recommend a Maruti to anyone.



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#49 05-Nov, 2009 01:28 PM
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this is really strange amit ....i wonder what kind of peace u've bought ...three of my friends own sx4 ....they've never complained abt car ...regarding stability specially ...ive also drivn the car ....it's not that gr8 ...but also not as bad either...i like it/s ground clearence ....its really suitable for indian roads .... i think in ur case ...you've been really unlucky ...& the faulty product hs been handed over to u ....



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#50 05-Nov, 2009 01:56 PM
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Posted by Amit

But there are niggling issues that Maruti should sort out because a person buying a 8 lakh rupee car wants more then just point A to B transport. EPS is the first thing they need to sort out. Simply put it's rubbish. Suspension is another part and of course better QC on parts like clutch which are somehow prone to packing up on the SX4. The interiors should be better too. Commonality of parts is there between A-Star and SX4! A A-Star customer will obviously find the p/w console of high quality while the SX4 owner will find it downmarket and cheap. It's all about perceptions.

I too agree to the above, but only to the point of interior quality and the fact that from A-star to Vitara, it has the same interiors. Even there I feel that when compared to other cars in the segment, these are not too bad. When looked at from the perspective of features that go in there, they become class leading (Even Now only Linea beats it, and the New Honda City). So in comparison, not bad at all.

Regarding EPS, Clutch, or suspension, I have never faced any problems whatsoever. 

In your case, I just feel either its a case of bad product or SX4 is just not your type. Either way what made us all SX4 owners feel bad is that you are generalising it for every SX4, which is certainly not justified.



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