Indigo Manza Or Maruti Dzire..!!!

Hi,

The three cars spoken of have their merits and demerits as well. I have the privilege of test driving all these three:

Linea:

It is in a slightly higher leage in its fit, finish and pricing. However, the car is tremendously under powered, especially at low rpms. It has only a fixed geometry turbo, which spews the power only beyond 1800  - 2000 rpm. The back seat is plush alright but laks space,

Dzire:

Looks do not please many. This also has a fixed geometry turbo and effects will be like linea. But the overall weight of this car is about 150 kgs less than linea and hence can perform slightly better. Its clutch pedals & steering are much softer cpmpared with manza. It laks space at the back seat and interiors are very bland. Imagine the patience needed to wait for it for 4 to 6 months, when globe is crying about auto recession.

Manza:

lookwise it ia much better than Dzire. Even the interiors are better than dzire but much less in quality comared to linea. It beats all the other cars in back seat space - sprawilng space indeed. Features for the price of manza beats the others. It has been provided with Variable geometry turbo, wchich provides smooth accelaration at all rpms and hence I found both city driving and highway driving much more comfortable compared with the other two. Its ride quality on slight blemishes on the city roads out beats Dzire. But, the negatives in my opinion are: 1. The hard clutch pedals and 2. Stiffer steering wheels.

Now, it is for the individual to choose.

Thanks Karunanidhi for that very objective write-up.  You must be one of the first to do a one-on-one comparison of all three.

When you say stiffer steering wheels, shouldnt that be a positive?  I personally would prefer a stiffer and more direct steering wheel than a light and vague one.  However, like you say, to each his own!

I have always fought to defend this "underpowered" thing about Linea. Agreed, it is not rocket power house. But to call it underpowered is a completely wrong notion based on test drives done by various drivers who have not got used to Linea's gear ratios. I love driving and a bit on the aggressive side more often. I find Linea's power quite adequate to keep ahead of anybody on Indian roads. Add to it, its handling coupled with decent acceleration always tempts me to the wrong side of the speed limit. Also it is not a fixed geometry turbo. Also don't blindly believe those 0-100 timings. You have got to ask a Linea MJD owner or catch one aggressive Linea driver on the road to know its characteristics.

Anyways, Linea is on the expensive side when compared to DZire or Manza. If looking for only value, Manza is perfect with the 90ps power, oodles of space and decent score overall.

I agree here steeroid,

I find SX4 steering way too stiff if compared to NHC but then,thats what i love about my vehicle.

Atleast it obeys my commands,i have seen my best friends NHC steering somehow giving a feel of disengaged from reality,it i feel is more dangerous on high speeds if my calculations are correct.

SX4 steering capabilities outshine that of NHC by huge numbers whether manueverability per say or cruising at high speeds.

I find it giving more feel of the road,which is important for the driver wpecially driving a heavy vehicle like SX4 or else we would end up damaging the suspension on potholes and dicthes.

Could you please list some of the features that are not in Manza but in Dzire.

Thanks,

Abhishek

the comparison between manzza and dzire shows manza to be having four door . doesn't it have a separate boot lid ??

Now thats a tough one.LOLz

Between Manza and Dzire - Manza scores in several aspects better than Dzire - like looks, rear seat space (in Swift or Dzire - 3 can not travel long distance comfortably at the rear seat), features etc.  You get lot more for the almost the same price.

Though Linea is a class above manza and Dzire i just wanted to clarify one point below

Hi Karunanidhi,

Linea has VGT - Variable Geomoetry Turbo and you do not feel the turbo lag in Linea as in Swift which has fixed one.Dzire turbo only kicks in at 1800 rpm and not that of Linea. Linea gives almost linear power delivery which peaks above 4000 rpm

Dzire weighs less than Linea but still performs not better than Linea. Linea has much better acceleration - though Swift and Dzire give a feel of "excellent acceleration" due to turbo kick in at 1800 rpm.

Fiat Linea:

0-60kmph = 6.12sec

0-100kmph = 15.04sec

Tata Manza:

0-60kmph = 5.83sec

0-100kmph = 14.54sec

Suzuki Dzire:

0-60kmph = 5.60sec

0-100kmph = 14.32sec

Source: Autocar India November 2009

The 'feel' of better acceleration is because of the actual better acceleration.

What the Manza has done is that it has made the costlier Linea look over priced. Personally feel the Dzire will not face much completion from both cars and continue to be the largest selling sedan in India.

Why the Dzire sells so much is because of the company and the well established platform, and not because the car parse is better than the Manza or the Linea. Its like investing in stocks, the majority will choose the least riskier option rather than plonking for the most bang for the buck with higher risk.

I agree.., I think I should have mentioned Linea has much better mid range acceleration and is poorer in straighline race track acceleration.

In terms of acceleration let us compare the 3 cars

0 to 100

Linea - 15.04, Manza Diesel - 15.6. Dzire - 14.3

20 to 80

Linea - 11.86, Manza - 15.5, Dzire - 13.2

40 to 100

Linea - 13.64, Manza - 21.03, Dzire - 17.8

As I have said in earlier postings,

If you drive in a race with clear tracks in front of you, then Linea will lag - which is not real life situaion. You are alreday at or above 30 and int his normal range - no other sedan can beat Linea in acceleration.