Best Sedan under 5 (& also more)

Yash, everything depends on usage... if usage is high ... diesel is always worthy and moreover, Fiesta diesel is very successful car. Fiesta S is very cool but if usage is high, one will feel the difference at Petrol pumps Calculate your usage.. monthly running ... devide it with 16 (Diesel) and 11-12 (Petrol) and than multiply with Diesel and Petrol cost ... you can calculate the difference of monthly fuel bill.

According to me, your usage merits a diesel car.  Don't think of buying a petrol & converting later into LPG/CNG & compormising on performance & power loss.  Diesel is economical & fuel efficient & will continue to remain so.  There's no point in apprehending dual pricing, as it quite unlikely to be implemented, and that, even if it comes through, it would, in any case, not affect users like us in a big way.

 

By the way... All cars are good in itself.  There is always a better car & there's no end to it.  Therefore, I suggest you 1st finalise your budget - if you can go for Fiesta, fine - else can consider Logan or others (based on the discussions we have had earlier).

 

 

I dont know how many of us we had the idea of the petrol price. In many countries Diesel price is more than the petrol. We have a subsidy system to Diesel. If they remove complete subsidy for the Diesel then the Diesel Price will be almost same as Petrol even may be more than Petrol.
See this link: Right Pic show you the cost of Diesel/Petrol Production.

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp

Delhi Diesel Vehicle Ban

The Supreme Court has sought the Centre's reply on a report by the Environment Protection Control Authority, terming Delhi's air pollution as critical because of the rise of diesel vehicles on the road. The authority recommended a ban on registration of diesel vehicles for personal use. "This restriction should also be applied to vehicles entering the city from neighbouring states as otherwise, the influx of these vehicles into the city will continue to grow and will negate the gains of pollution control measures," the report said. The court, which issued the notice last Friday, has given the Centre four weeks to reply The pollution report correlated increase in respirable suspended particulate matter (RSPM) and Nitrogen Oxide (NOX) levels with higher registration of diesel vehicles in Delhi. The number of diesel cars has increased by nearly 425 per cent over the last decade, but fell after the introduction of CNG, the report said. Every day 963 new vehicles ply Delhi's roads, of which 308 are diesel-run. While registration of petrol cars has increased at the annual rate of 8.5 per cent, diesel vehicle registrations have gone up by 16.6 per cent. Quoting information from the Society of Automobile Association of India, the report said, the market share of diesel cars has increased to over 30 per cent in the last 18 months and is expected to be 50 per cent by 2010, when Delhi hosts the Commonwealth Games. These additional vehicles, the report said, would release particulate matter equal to 30,000 diese1buses. This month, the respirable suspended particulate matter level touched 240 microgram per cubic metre, which is higher than the level in 2002 when CNG was introduced. "Diesel vehicles in 2004 contributed 23 per cent to RSPM levels," the report said. The report also said the emission from diesel vehicles is more toxic than petrol vehicles and cited various studies to substantiate this. The report also said that diesel cars meeting the Bharat Stage III emission standards are allowed to emit three times more NOX and RSPM than the petrol cars. "Petrol cars emit negligible particulate matter while every diesel car is allowed to emit 0.05 gram per kilometre under the Bharat Stage III norms," the report said. But in Europe the NOX and RSPM standards for petrol and diesel vehicles are similar, the report said. Pointing out that Pollution Under Control System, measuring the polluting level of diesel vehicles, has not worked the report said that the standards for the smoke density test for a PUC certificate was quite low. Hence, of the 50 diesel vehicles checked, none failed the test. "Worldwide the smoke density test has failed. Countries like Australia have adopted better technologies," the report said. EPCA also found out in June 2006 that some PUC centres were fudging their certificates, which it said, were issued without even starting the engine of the vehicles or sometimes by tinkering with the machines. Putting forth the point about the report, amicus curiae Harish Salve said the time has come to take corrective measures or the gains of introduction of CNG would be lost.

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Diesel fuel contains more energy per litre than petrol and coupled with the fact that diesel engines are more efficient than petrol engines, diesel cars are more efficient to run. Diesel fuel contains no lead and emissions of the regulated pollutants (carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides) are lower than those from petrol cars without a catalyst. However, when compared to petrol cars with a catalyst, diesels have higher emissions of nitrogen oxides and much higher emissions of particulate matter.

 

Emissions from cars are greatest when an engine is cold. On a cold day a petrol car may take up to 10km to warm up and operate at maximum efficiency; a diesel car may only take 5km. Consequently, diesel cars produce less unburned fuel during a cold start, which will result in lower emissions of carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons. Diesel cars could make a significant impact on air quality in urban areas where most cold starts occur, especially when it is considered that a catalyst on a petrol car would take several minutes to reach its operating temperature. Overall, diesel cars emit less hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and lead pollution than petrol cars, but produce more noxious gases and significantly more particulates.

 

Source (last 2 paras reproduced verbatim)

Want to save the environment - provide better roads.

You can have the most fuel efficient and clean car in the world and sit in a traffic jam in Delhi and kill the environment going no were.

There should be laws empowering authorities to punish city planners and contractors - whats the point in banning this and banning that!

That's the bottomline.

To have a free flow road in India apart from GOVT we all Car Owner/Drivers needs to have better traffic sense. Govt Can't do every thing until and unless people take it in positive way. We always try to find out the loopholes in the system.
Simple EX: Jumping the Q for Parking. Many times I have seen brainless people try to overtake all the Q and join in the Middle... And people feel proud doing this.

That's true.  By the way, we have a nice thread on the subject matter (traffic ethics) - please check. Thanks.