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#11 27-Dec, 2007 04:35 PM
Pankaj Prasad
City: Bhavnagar




Like I have said earlier, it is not that we are not aware of the traffic rules & signals but we behave irresponsibly (& break them).  We have the commonsense that is required but we seldom use the sense commonly.

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#12 21-Jan, 2008 11:48 AM
Arun Kumar
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Posted by Pankaj Prasad
Like I have said earlier, it is not that we are not aware of the traffic rules & signals but we behave irresponsibly (& break them).  We have the commonsense that is required but we seldom use the sense commonly.


Considering the amount of time we spend in traffic people become desperate.So the moment they see a green signal people charge ahead ,they have absolutely no regards for traffic rules at this time.


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#13 21-Jan, 2008 11:18 PM
Pankaj Prasad
City: Bhavnagar




Yes, traffic conditions too need to improve. But that cannot be cited as an excuse.

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#14 22-Jan, 2008 10:29 AM
Himanshu Singh
City: Noida
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Posted by Banwari Lal Sharma
Preethi,

More or less I agree with you, however I would never want people to follow rules/regulations out of fear.

I have an interesting example of people-made traffic rules.

The scene is Arenza sqare in Vashi. Red signal is counting 120, 119, 118... A truck, two cars and one mini-bus stopped where they were supposed to stop. Then came an auto-rikshaw, passing all of them, and stopped in the front row. Then came a Maruti Alto and stopped ahead of auto. A few bikes and a scooter stopped ahead of Alto. Signal is counting 90, 89, 88... and the front row has intruded at least 20 feet so far.

Signal is 60, 59, 58... and front has moved 5-6 feet further, signal is 40, 39, 38... and they have blocked almost entire road ahead and have reached halfway of circle. 25, 24, 23... and there they go. Traffic moved without caring for the traffic on the intersecting side. Green came and gone, red came again. 120, 119, 118 and here comes an Indica zooming ahead, just saving itself from banging a bike coming from right.

This cycle repeats hundreds of times everyday. No matter there is a cop available or not.

Now imagine I was in one of the cars in the same aggressive traffic. I wanted to honor traffic ethics. Wanted to remain idle till signal goes green. But everybody behind me was honking like anything. They made me realize that I am committing some kind of crime. 'Everybody is moving, why ain't you? Are you special?'

Sometimes, you can influence people to stop till it goes green but sometimes conditions are so worse that you might end up fighitng. This is what make me realize, yes, we should be punished, fined for breaking rules. But I don't feel good realizing this fact!

Hi banwari, i live in Noida and have drive a fair bit in Noida and gaziabad. unlike delhi these two cities have much less flyovers and large number of traffic signals. It has happened with me many times, When i stop at the stop line for the red light, and exactly as you said I get swarmed by all kinds of vehicles, coming from all directions and going to all directions. And they even honk me to move but I simply show them the signal and say firmly, i am not going to jump this signal, If you want to do so, your wish. I have seen some peolpe who would have otheriwse jumped the signal, but seeing me waiting for the light to turn green they too stopped. As pankaj said, its nto that people are not aware or they do not want to follow traffic rules, but all want to do what tohers are doing. best to combat this is to strictly follow the rules yourself and very soon you will find the number of rule abiding motorists will improve on the road. At leat the peolpe participating itn his discusison should take the lead and follow all rules religiously.

Word of caution for any one coming to noida: during night watch out for traffic coming from different directions during th enight, if your signal is green. People here jump red lights at far greater speeds than what they will do if the signal was green


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#15 23-Jan, 2008 12:24 PM
Amit
City: Karnal
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Its getting more and more scary to drive on city roads.

So what can we as a group of auto enthusiasts do in our limited capability to impress upon people to follow proper driving habits and try to make our roads more safer and well behaved.

I believe that none of us would break traffic rules or jump signals (in case anyone does its actually quite shameful, to be an auto enthusiast and not believe in traffic rules). Where as it is certainly good, but not enough.

Given that we are quite a big group of enthusiastic individuals and communicate with each other very frequently and are spread over a number of cities. Why not try to do something so that we can also impress upon people to follow proper traffic rules and drive safely.

I am not exactly sure how I would like to go about it. But if we can come up with good ideas we sure can make a difference. Lets go about brainstorming some good ideas and lets see if we can implement some of them and make a difference in any small/big way to make our roads more safe and drivable.


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#16 23-Jan, 2008 12:31 PM
Suryanarayan Ganesh
City: Mumbai
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Forget driving, general civic sense is also very low in India - clear evidence is the still ongoing practice of using the roads as public lavatory near slums.  

You need to only compare with China where several revolutions each have brought significant social change and improvement, including the need for cleanliness - they left behind such backward practices very long ago due to their civic sense.   The only bad habits they have left that are comparable with India is spitting and corruption.  

For example if you use toilets in China - there are big bold writings on cleanliness, wash hands with soap, clean up toilet seat everywhere - and people read and follow these to the letter.  In our case, visit even the mall toilets where our upper middle class visit - and see how the toilets are left behind.

But you can also see that things are improving in India over the years through media - television especially, with people wanting to be more sophisticated and clean and not wanting to feel embarrassed - but it is slow change. 

We need politicians, education, media, NGOs, even religious leaders to have some kind of big movements to be able to bring about significant change in the society so we can stand up to countries like China and actually be worth the name of a fast growing developing nation.


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Last Updated: 23-Jan, 2008 12:35 PM, by Suryanarayan Ganesh
#17 23-Jan, 2008 01:02 PM
Himanshu Singh
City: Noida
Long-termer




While that is true I walys believe that the process of transformation has to begin with oneself. At least for traffic signals we can take a pledge not to jump traffic signals, drive recklessly, or break any other traffice rules. For overall improvement of how we treat our cities, it will take little more than that, but I dont think we should focus on that in this forum. it only dilutes the focus i.e. traffic discipline


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#18 23-Jan, 2008 01:22 PM
Amit
City: Karnal
Long-termer




Posted by Himanshu Singh
While that is true I walys believe that the process of transformation has to begin with oneself. At least for traffic signals we can take a pledge not to jump traffic signals, drive recklessly, or break any other traffice rules. For overall improvement of how we treat our cities, it will take little more than that, but I dont think we should focus on that in this forum. it only dilutes the focus i.e. traffic discipline


I appreciate your thought Himanshu. And this is exactly what I would call for. We should try and do what we stand for and what we believe in. There  is a whole lot of rot to clean as far as the over all civic sense of the people is concerned. But lets take small steps and start with what this group is all about Enjoying your car and doing so safely.

People pour in ideas and we can try and do our bit and we will see that we can make a difference to our roads.


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#19 23-Jan, 2008 09:37 PM
Pankaj Prasad
City: Bhavnagar




Yes, very true - let us contribute our bit to the roads. If we understand what is right (which all of us do), we should honestly follow our conscience - and not be guided by what others/majority do. We should set good examples for others & not follow the common practices.

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#20 11-Jun, 2008 03:20 PM
Kansihk.Tokas
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