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#21 17-May, 2007 10:49 PM
Naresh
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hi again....

 

it seems that we still don't have an expertise for getting in CNG details. I posted my query somewhat a month ago.....and still waiting for a reply.

should'nt say this but still cheers

kapil



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#22 27-May, 2007 08:53 PM
Mandeep Arora
City: Gurgaon
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hi all am new to this forum and i think am going through a similar situation...which we call "confused"..please advise.. I have a small budget , it's 2.5 lacs only please advise on this 1)old car(which car) with CNG fitting? 2)New car(which car) with CNG fitting?*** i know in case 2 i have to get the car financed, but i can live with that if you are suggesting the case 1, then which car will be ideal for CNG, in terms of less effect on engine,what will be ideal mileage acceptable in case of old car for CNG fitting if you are suggesting case 2, please suggest the car. thanks mandy

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#23 12-Jun, 2007 12:26 AM
Siddhartha Rathi
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hi anurag.....

i am in total disagreeme t with you that diesel engine gets more worn out than petrol.... mordern days diesel engines are far more refined and actually have life more than that of a petrol engine.... Diesel generate more torque than any other fuel and future actually is diesel...... the moment price difference between diesel cars and petrol cars come down the CNG will have to pass by

Hi Saurabh,

As per your first query, and as i already told you there is no difference in maintaining a CNG car and a petrol car, consider them as same, maintaining a diesel car is higher. I think you know this thing but still I am telling this to you that the so called CNG cars that i told you about  like lancer, optra are actually petrol cars but a CNG kit comes factory fitted with them, i.e. you can drive those cars on petrol as well as on CNG, as you wish, the same engine(petrol engine) is working on both fuels. So there is no difference in maintaining them. The company might charge something extra for cleaning up of CNG injecting components. Thats it.

CNG cars(not the ones in which CNG kit comes factory fitted) might have lesser resale value due to the fact that a major alteration has been done in the car, this is the case(even though one spends a lot of money to fit them) and in smaller cars the luggage space in the rear is gone after fitting a CNG cylinder in it. Diesel cars has less re-sale value due to higher maintenance cost afterwards and it is always presumed that the Diesel engine is more worn out than the petrol. 

Please tell your budget, i'll give recommendations as per that.

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#24 12-Jun, 2007 01:57 PM
saurabh mehta
City: New Delhi
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Hi Siddharth.....welcome to the forum.

Well, I can go for any segment car, budget is not a problem but my main concern is to cut down the fuel expense as low as possible (also includes overall maintenance cost)....complete peace of mind for atleast 4 yrs as I may go for extended warranty.

I am considering highly economical, low maintenance cost option as my daily running is about 70 kms. I own wagonR 2004 model (avg running cost in city Rs 2.75/per km), may be I would like to go for another car which fulfills my requirement. Kindly suggest



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#25 12-Jun, 2007 03:56 PM
Nishant
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Hi Karan, I am planning to buy a 2nd hand Honda City or Baleno...and would like to get a LPG or CNG kit fitted. Have 2 queries:

Which Car works best (mileage, maintance cost, and power) with LPG/ CNG?, then, Should I go for CNG or LPG?

Cheers!, Nishant, Mumbai

Posted by Karan Gambhir

ya ... a CNG Honda City is being used....and its going great......

its giving an average of over 20 on CNG.

Very little power loss.

i don't have much clue about the Baleno,but certainly i've also heard many ppl hav installed CNG kits in Honda City's and its pretty ok.

 

p.s---remember.. ALOT of space in the boot,is used by the Cylinder.



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#26 12-Jun, 2007 04:00 PM
Nishant
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Hi Anurag, need your inputs, I am planning to buy a 2nd hand Honda City or Baleno...and would like to get a LPG or CNG kit fitted. Have 2 queries:

Which Car works best (mileage, maintance cost, and power) with LPG/ CNG?, then, Should I go for CNG or LPG?

Cheers!, Nishant, Mumbai

Posted by anurag

Hi Mayur,

Getting a LPG kit fitted in your car will cost you around Rs.22,000 and a CNG kit will cost you around Rs.40,000. The CNG tank will acquire a huge space in your boot and even the performance of engine would be not as good as with the LPG but the main thing is, the running cost of a car on CNG will be half of that of LPG. CNG proves to be far more cheaper. If both these fuels are in easy access, go for the CNG if economy is the main concern.



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#27 14-Jun, 2007 12:01 AM
anurag
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Posted by Kapilkaushik100

hi,

I have one Ford Mondeo 2.0 Ghia Duratec, 2002 model and was searching for a CNG option.  I tried many dealers but had a really terrible experience, no one knows about the type of engine which would be best supportive for CNG.  My experience to all this survey concluded me to one thing.....the advancer settings. Both CNG and petrol require different timing advances(CNG advancer should move fast than petrol to burn complete fuel, in absence of which knocking, missing etc would take place).

Please advice/suggest me.  I am really confused about this.  Is CNG really a fuel for my car(Ford Mondeo 2.0 Ghia Duratec).

kapil

 

Hi Kapil,

Sorry for the delayed response, I missed your post earlier. The thing is, A ford Mondeo is a D+ segment car and its engine is performance based with very complicated components which a normal mechanic here won't understand. Moreover no expects a person driving a D+ segment car to get the CNG fitted in the car, thats why even somehow you get a kit fitted, it won't be compatible and it would drastically effect the performance. Mondeo is not meant to be driven on CNG, petrol is the fuel.   



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#28 14-Jun, 2007 12:33 AM
anurag
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Posted by Siddhartha Rathi

hi anurag.....

i am in total disagreeme t with you that diesel engine gets more worn out than petrol.... mordern days diesel engines are far more refined and actually have life more than that of a petrol engine.... Diesel generate more torque than any other fuel and future actually is diesel...... the moment price difference between diesel cars and petrol cars come down the CNG will have to pass by

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Hi Siddhartha,

I hope you know this fact that a diesel car always has a lesser re-sale value and thats what i was saying in that post of mine, the diesel engines are "PRESUMED" to be more worn out even if they are not, so they have lesser re-sale value.

Now the fact is, a diesel engine does cause more wear and tear of the car, whether it is the modern CRDi or the primitive type of injection system or whether it comes with a Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Audi or a Maruti. 

Petrol is way more cleaner and refined as compared to the Diesel, the diesel engine always vibrates more, ALWAYS. Drive the Merc E280 petrol & E280 diesel, there is a difference. The vibrations are the reason for more more wear and tear, you have to go into technical depth of both fuel systems and their working to understand furthur. Life of a diesel engine is always less than the petrol engine. Being a less refined fuel, diesel is a lot cheaper than petrol. Its getting popular because it is economical, and this trend is only growing in India, petrol/gasoline is still preferred in majority of other countries. Well, as for me, I prefer diesel irrespective of the life and wear and tear but unfortunately I still drive a petrol car and pay Rs52/lt for it.



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#29 14-Jun, 2007 12:48 AM
anurag
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Posted by saurabh mehta

Hi Siddharth.....welcome to the forum.

Well, I can go for any segment car, budget is not a problem but my main concern is to cut down the fuel expense as low as possible (also includes overall maintenance cost)....complete peace of mind for atleast 4 yrs as I may go for extended warranty.

I am considering highly economical, low maintenance cost option as my daily running is about 70 kms. I own wagonR 2004 model (avg running cost in city Rs 2.75/per km), may be I would like to go for another car which fulfills my requirement. Kindly suggest

Hi Saurabh,

That one was my post for you which i posted earlier; which Siddharth couldn't quote properly. Previously also, I wanted to ask you one question, How come your car is running @ Rs2.75/km, it comes out to be 16kpl and that too in city???? Rs. 2.75/km is equal to a diesel car's running cost...



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#30 14-Jun, 2007 01:00 AM
anurag
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Posted by Nishant Goyal

Hi Anurag, need your inputs, I am planning to buy a 2nd hand Honda City or Baleno...and would like to get a LPG or CNG kit fitted. Have 2 queries:

Which Car works best (mileage, maintance cost, and power) with LPG/ CNG?, then, Should I go for CNG or LPG?

Cheers!, Nishant, Mumbai

Posted by anurag

Hi Mayur,

Getting a LPG kit fitted in your car will cost you around Rs.22,000 and a CNG kit will cost you around Rs.40,000. The CNG tank will acquire a huge space in your boot and even the performance of engine would be not as good as with the LPG but the main thing is, the running cost of a car on CNG will be half of that of LPG. CNG proves to be far more cheaper. If both these fuels are in easy access, go for the CNG if economy is the main concern.

The response of both Honda City and Baleno will be same to LPG or CNG, both can be fitted with any of these kits. Regarding performance, the decrease will be more in case of CNG than LPG for both cars. No change in maintenance cost, although prefer a Honda City. Rest of answer is in my post which you quoted.



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