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#171 29-Sep, 2009 01:06 AM
Sandipan Manna
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please help me understand the tachometer concept....



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#172 29-Sep, 2009 07:39 AM
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Hi Sandipan,

Saw the pics. That is one nice car! Noticed that the color is one that was available on the old zen, and was one of the most popular colors - it was called bottle green then, I guess.

The power and torque Internal combustion engines (both petrol and diesel) produce is not constant over the RPM range, but increases initially with the engine speed, and reaches a maximum at a design dependent RPM. Normally these points are above our common engine RPMs during city driving.

Car owners manual generally specifies the shift points for good acceleration and fuel efficiency - if your car has a tachometer, you are able to correlate these shift points to a lower and an upper limit to the engine RPM. Then it is easier to keep the engine in the band where power delivery is optimal - hit lower RPM limit - shift to lower gear, hit upper RPM limit - change to higher gear.

In the absence of a Tacho, one has to keep shift points in mind always, and then gauge one's state with respect to these shift points. If you are in a lower gear than recommended at the speed, engine RPM will be on the higher side, power delivery will be good, but you will soon hit a limit as far as car speed is concerned. Similarly if you are in a higher gear than recommended at the speed, your RPM will be lower, and you are in the danger of lugging the engine (strange knocking sounds when operating to near stalling engine speed). This is not good for engine's health.

So tacho frees you from making one extra conversion to arrive at the engine status. But you can, by practice, habituate yourself to the speedo/gear combination, and arrive at the same status.



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#173 16-Jan, 2010 12:46 PM
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Thanks a lot!!Krishna..

The replied cleared my doubts...i appreciate your response.

The car is great!!

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#174 16-Jan, 2010 06:20 PM
Umesh Nagarkar
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with all due respect to the inventors the tachometer is a useless accessary in the car as far as experienced driver ..or for that matter any driver..is concerned . I dont remember looking at the tachometer while changing geras . With experience and habit you know it by the speed of the car when to shift gears.



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#175 16-Jan, 2010 07:32 PM
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Hi Sandipan, Long time no post?? Where have you been all this while?

It has been quite some time now with your car - it would be good to hear about how things are going, a one liner as above won't suffice. Wotsay?

Posted by Umesh.N
...With experience and habit you know it by the speed of the car when to shift gears.

I agree perfectly. But what should a novice do? Download expertise to the brain?

Excuse my sarcasm, but every art is initially science - one needs to understand the underlying science before it becomes habit and then the art aspect comes up, when you know how to manipulate the parameters to express individuality and flair. Till then, keeping the science handy and clear helps, and therefore the tacho is important as car instrumentation.I



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#176 16-Jan, 2010 07:37 PM
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Posted by ashugupta0505

thanks. after around 2 months and one service i must say I 10 is great car. It is perfectly smooth just like butter and you will never realize that you are driving a car.

Also it is very powerful. AC is best in class. I will have to check the average as i am not regular traveller and travelled only around 500 Km in last 2 months in mumbai..

guys i recommend strongly I 10 car for those who are looking for luxury, stylish, safe care below 4.5 L budget.

also be aware or rather avoid A 1 Hyundai, Saki Naka Show room as these people are not good for any thing.



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#177 17-Jan, 2010 12:19 AM
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in dont agree to that i have drove the i10 and i am driving ritz everyday..ofcourse  by looks but exterior and interior i10 is a class apart from ritz. but when driving is the choice ritz outclass i10. and guys cars are meant for that only..drive..the power delivery is awesome in ritz. i10 is slow on that, also the suspension in i10 is so soft that on indian roads it keeps bouncing and after some time its irritating. whereas ritz suspension is strong and stable..

ritz wins the overall category!!!

any answers!!


krishna..yes it was a long break..and i really missed this forum a lot..



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#178 18-Jan, 2010 07:24 AM
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Dear Sandeep

thanks for the comparision. I am not sure that I can agree with anyone of them. Though I have not driven Ritz but I 10 has no issues as indicated by you. Ritz interiors are no where in comparision with I 10 even at higher cost. Maruti is taking higher premium than Hyundai.

Also I 10 Magna at 4.3 L gives much more features than Ritz VXI (should be around 5 plus).

Any intention is not to compare but highlight I 10 experience in sub 4.5 L category and the luxury, comfort and Safety you get.

cheers

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#179 16-Feb, 2010 01:22 PM
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hello guys!! my ritz crossed the 4000 kms mark.. and its going great...recently i went to agra. and the delhi to agra highway is great. great feel when you drive your new car on road like this. i could easily touch 130 km/h speed . and the car still felt grounded to the road. no rattling, no excess engine noise. i also drove my friend's new i10 magna. which had just crossed 800kms mark. i must say that the interiors are bright and comfortable, gears are smoother than in ritz. the best thing i liked was the interiors, however i could also find some things which were lacking. the i10 suspension is way smooth. there for when you hit a pot hole orspeed breaker you feel like there are some extra springs inside the car which makes it jump unnecessarily. also the car pick up is slow when you change gears the car does not respond so quickly, which does not happen in ritz. however i10 after the initial delay takes the speed nicely. onething more after driving ritz you feel a little cramp in i10. thats my though all of you wont agree..i know. 



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