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#11 27-Sep, 2010 06:49 PM
Radheshyam
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hi i dont think you've known much about this, for to begin with i'll give you two very simple proofs of its full success, 1) go to www.ebay.com (not www.ebay.in !) and search for 'hydrogen generators' and tell me that the list of such innovations isn't enough and I can even tell you a Registered INDIAN company which manufactures these kits for a fraction of a price.



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#12 28-Sep, 2010 12:18 PM
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eBay sells all sorts of stuff. That does not make all those things genuine or useful. You will find all sorts of magic devices and snake oil that may or may not cost a lot of money but do nothing. First get the science (or pseudo-science) behind it correctly and then buy it. Of course if you want to buy it blindfolded or just because you think its hot, that's your choice - just don't expect others to buy it or the explanations you offer for it.




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#13 28-Sep, 2010 10:19 PM
Radheshyam
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ok let us see, if you try to find the history here you'll find  a lot of developments that have happened: well all this boils down to if you have a spare junk car or something to  to try this out out then think about it.

                 "energy needed to produce the gas is much more than the energy boost it gives to the engine"

Now if you know even if you need a lot of energy to break the bond in any chemical, you add a catalyst and the energy reduced to a lot. If you try this out you'll find more about this.This is like gold and I know a registered company which sell professional kit for addition and it uses zero water( water used in inverters) for this. you can buy this kit for some 5k to 10k just keep an open mind and you'll find the goldmine.



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#14 29-Sep, 2010 01:15 PM
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One question: If its all so good, why don't car manufacturers build their cars with it or mention it in the user manuals as a good thing to do? Further, any discussion regarding water4gas may be had in this thread: http://www.carwale.com/forums/ViewThread-4076.html

Please do not post in this thread - it is not related to the thread's topic (which is "making a generator from an engine").




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#15 29-Sep, 2010 02:59 PM
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yes thats the point, If people start using water instead of oil what will the petrochem industries do? Well its their business and big bucks! I could give you a million proofs whether it'll work or not and there is No need for that as its no rocket sceince & that the testing materials maybe unobtainable You should try it on some vehicle which you can spare or a friend has and it'll give you good results trust me.  well as for the company they don't do much propoganda but its a V.good compnay. See here girirajsystems( dot)com pretty decent company good reputation, I surely would've tried it if  i had the resources. Thank you.



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#16 29-Sep, 2010 03:18 PM
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I have continued our discussion here: http://www.carwale.com/forums/viewthread-4076-p25.html#post195967 - please start posting here for further discussion. I, as anyone else, will not respond to any of your posts in this thread.




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#17 14-Oct, 2010 03:48 PM
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I think sticking on to the original thread here "making generator from 2 wheeler engine" inverter seems the easiest way out.

Someone said it is not a good idea as it causes losses. I agree that commutator w'd cause generation losses but if not then we have to have an isochronous governor for controling engine RPM else frequency w'd hunt. I don't know what w'd a governor for 7 bhp engine cost but since i have an inverter I won't spend anything extra. At the most i have to let go some powere developed.And as far as inverter itself is concerned it is a solid state electonics device meaning no moving parts ar no heating elements / filaments as in olden vacuum tube devices. Hence there can't be any losses in the inverter itself.

Other solution suggested, using 3 phase generator, is impracticle for me. I mean the entire home is wired for single phase. To use 3 phases i have to get it re wired. Also if one phase is connected to say refrigerator which cuts in and out there will be substantail phase imbalace in alternator. Moreover when we are talking on 3.5 kw power, power per phase w'd be too tiny to be useful.

What's ur opinion rohit.



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#18 14-Oct, 2010 06:33 PM
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@Kirti - though I could not fully understand your post, regarding efficiency, even the inverter will have losses. However, it is the easiest way out. With the inverter, given the alternator's max rating of 60A, you will be able to draw a max of about 3A from the inverter's 230V output - not really useful for running anything more than a few CFL/fluorescent lamps and one or two small fans. Forget running the fridge or the AC from it!!




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#19 13-Feb, 2011 10:34 PM
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as far as Fuel is concerned home made bio gas can be used as an aleterative energy source but, we gotta need a CNG kit . though we can buy a gas plant @25k onwords though people are capable to build it at home. i think its not a rocket science and very easy to build at home. there are ebook available on interent how to build it at home




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