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#1 07-Apr, 2009 04:16 PM
Torque350
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Gone are the days where cutting, welding, unreliable noisy engines where the "only" ways to boost performance. The new age techie way is to just pop an ECU in the car without any dramas. Its really that simple!! Got a hang of the ECU concept sometime back and am super excited to know more!! Any info, comments, etc.. plz shootSmile




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#2 22-Apr, 2009 02:21 PM
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How to know , which ECU my hyundai santro xing xp uses



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#3 22-Apr, 2009 03:48 PM
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Hi Praneeth, thanks for the reply. Well you don't have to worry about the OE ECU your Santro Xing has onboard. There are aftermarket ECUs available to boost the performance of your car. Those are just plug and play. You will have a switch on the dashboard to switch between stock and performance mode on the go. Its very simple and I'v fallen in love with the entire concept.




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#4 22-Apr, 2009 06:35 PM
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What all do you know ECU/ECM Torque350?

We can help you accordingly.




I tried this and I had understeer, I tried that and I had oversteer, at the end of the corner I just ran out of talent!
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#5 22-Apr, 2009 07:39 PM
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Rachit, Is it possible to get a set of male-female ECU connectors for Honda City (NHC 1.5 EXi)?

I want to tap a few wires, and the easiest way to do so without disturbing the original setup is to have a male-female set of connectors connected back-to-back and then tapping wires through the back-to-back connections. No original wiring will be harmed in this way.

I somehow have to make use of the MPGuino I have bought without harming my vehicle's wiring, hence the query.



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#6 23-Apr, 2009 10:14 AM
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@Rachit- Hi, well all I know is it is installed in your car( dunno where ), and a switch provided to switch between stock and performance mode.

i) Where does all the wires from the ECU go and connect to?

ii) Does the ECU take complete control?

iii) What is the difference between "standalone" and "piggy back" ECU?

iv) Is a "tuning box" and an ECU the same?

I'm sorry for so many questions, but I really want to know more about ECUs[]. Thanks a lot for your support.




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#7 23-Apr, 2009 10:35 AM
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Torque350, ECU is like a computer which controls the various aspects of the car. As its a computer, it can only understand current, resistance etc. So a car has sensors connected to different parts like the intake manifold, exhaust, crankshaft, camshaft, cylinder wall etc. These sensors sense the different physical parameters like temperature, pressure etc and convert the same accordingly into a certain resistance or voltage. This signal is sent to the ECM, which understands the different physical paramaters as per the data stored in it initially and sends the signal to the actuator. Actuator functions according to the command of the ECU.

The main reason ECU was introduced was to control the pollution. It was later on that ECU was used for other purposes like cruise control, ABS, etc.

ECU's wires are connected to the various different parts of a car, the main primary ones are:

Intake Air Temperature Sensor (Intake Manifold for temperature)

Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor (Intake manifold again for pressure)

RPM Sensor (Crankshaft)

Oxygen (Lambda)Sensor (Exhaust)

Camshaft Sensor (To sense Camshaft's position)

Knock sensor ( To sense any knocking in the engine)

Throttle Body Position sensor (At the throttle)

Engine Temperature Sensor (On the Cylinder Wall)

 

Your 3rd  & 4th question's answer:

ECU runs on a software. Keeping mileage in mind and pollution under control, ECU's are programmed for more mileage and less performance. a tuning box is tuned for more performance which reduces the mileage. Manufacturers don't leakout the codes of their ECU  softwares, so a tuning box is added which kind of controls the ECU and commands it to work accordingly. (i.e for more performance)

 

@Krishna

I'm fail to understand what exactly do you want?

 




I tried this and I had understeer, I tried that and I had oversteer, at the end of the corner I just ran out of talent!
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#8 24-Apr, 2009 10:22 AM
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Hi Rachit, thanks for the info, really appreciate it. I'm still not very clear on the "Piggy-Back" and "Standalone" ECU's difference. Also what is a Wide Band Sensor? I know one place where aftermarket ECUs are available. A place called RACE dynamics. Any other place where it is available? Thanks again.




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#9 24-Apr, 2009 11:53 AM
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Race Dynamics - Bangalore (Kartik) is there, I guess there is one more in South.

WideBand Sensor is form of a Zirconia sensor (A type of Oxygen or lambda sensor), which uses electromchemical gas. Its an oxygen sensor itself, but it gives a better response even with minute changes.

If your from Mumbai, many poeple do use Race Dynamics software. 

See this.

If you dont understand this let me know. I will try my best to explain you.




I tried this and I had understeer, I tried that and I had oversteer, at the end of the corner I just ran out of talent!
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#10 24-Apr, 2009 04:33 PM
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Wow Rachit thanks a LOT! You'v gone the extra mile doing this. Went through the link you povided. This was pure spoonfeeding lol.Laughing Yep understood enough for now. Thanks a LOT againSmile




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