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#1 23-Jan, 2009 12:53 AM
Karan
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hi guys ...i was just doin a random research on diesel cars.....so was comparing 4 of 2days well knows Diesel cars.....

the Swift DDis---the Fiat Linea Multijet......

The Skoda Octavia1.9 Ambiente

Teh Skoda Octavia1.9 Elegance

now compare the Powers of the Linea's VGT Multijet Engine ...only1.2 cc.....almost equalls the Skoda's 1896 cc Engine !!!!..........now,isnt this how FAR Diesels hav come ??...only in a few yrs time ?.....

what say guys......

CHECK THIS OUT.

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#2 23-Jan, 2009 11:54 AM
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Diesel low cubic capacity engines with highy out-put tend to have a lesser life (1lakh kilo meter) when compared to higher capacity engine with the same power 




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#3 23-Jan, 2009 10:47 PM
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really ?.....is this true guys ??



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#4 24-Jan, 2009 10:12 AM
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I would generalise this matter...

Outputs (power/torque) need to be in appropriate relation to CC. Various other aspects (technology etc.) too play a vital role in determing the subject.

... And this would stand true for Petrol cars also.

Nevertheless, lower outputs add to engine longevity due to less exertion/burden. 

Besides / by the way, a car used at higher outputs (driving style) will have less longevity than compared to the same car used at lower outputs (driving stye).




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#5 24-Jan, 2009 11:25 AM
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Karan if your pointing at performance, by means of horsepower, then the answer for that is technology. In terms of 0-100 then it calculated by power output to the weight ratio of the four-wheeler. 

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I would generalise this matter...

Outputs (power/torque) need to be in appropriate relation to CC. Various other aspects (technology etc.) too play a vital role in determing the subject.

... And this would stand true for Petrol cars also.

Nevertheless, lower outputs add to engine longevity due to less exertion/burden. 

Besides / by the way, a car used at higher outputs (driving style) will have less longevity than compared to the same car used at lower outputs (driving stye).

Pankaj, I will not agree on this point. First of all Octavia engine compared has a TDI engine and the Fiat engine compared is a multi-jet engine. Multijet is more advanced than the TDI.  

With rapid advancement in Material Technology, the safety factor considered while designing is very high and hence there are no issues with the life of the engine.




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#6 24-Jan, 2009 03:54 PM
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Rachit, (but) I agree with your point Smile

While stating the above, as stated, I have generalised the matter - without comparing cars or technologies.




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#7 24-Jan, 2009 04:10 PM
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Posted by Pankaj Prasad

I would generalise this matter...

Outputs (power/torque) need to be in appropriate relation to CC. Various other aspects (technology etc.) too play a vital role in determing the subject.

... And this would stand true for Petrol cars also.

Nevertheless, lower outputs add to engine longevity due to less exertion/burden. 

Besides / by the way, a car used at higher outputs (driving style) will have less longevity than compared to the same car used at lower outputs (driving stye).

bt Pankaj....in dis way does this mean the Honda City Zx's engine wud last longer than the NEw Honda City's Engine .......its got the same cc..... ?



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#8 24-Jan, 2009 04:49 PM
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What I have stated above is in a very general sense.

By the way, the technologies etc. of both the cars are not the same.




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#9 24-Jan, 2009 05:24 PM
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ya agreed technology is different.......Idsi vs i-vtec.

ok..bt then we can compare the cOrolla n the Corolla Altis....

Altis gives out slightly more power..n alot more torque......

now does this mean its engine is expected to last slightly lesser wen retuned n used in the ALtis ??...

p.s---Pankaj....i m jusyt askin for ur personal view...

pls dnt think i m askin u to challenge u or sumthin.

 cheers !



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#10 24-Jan, 2009 06:08 PM
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The old Honda City, besides i-DSI, also has VTEC.  The new one has i-VTEC.

Regarding Corolla & Altis, I do not know much about these cars.  But I think there is a little difference in the technology - Corolla had Gasoline while the Altis has 1ZZ0-FE Gasoline.

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