Fiat Linea Vs Honda City

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If Ford Fiesta Diesel is powerful then I need to understand the meaning of Sluggish.

rightly written ami.

& dphw,

plz tell us in what way u found linea sluggish & fiesta not?

Ok. Ami & Deepam.

Its just not my opinion but even my friend's when we went to Test Drive the Linea. The Test Drive was taken both for Petrol & Diesel.

Petrol : The Pick up is very Bad. When we compare it to ANHC & Ford Fiesta, its really bad. One can feel it. I am not technicall sound in the Auto-Eng. stuff, but just don't know why the car seemed to struggle for a Pick up. Ofcourse the MPFI Programming may have been done like that so as to get bette mileage. But it was not good for Self Drivers. Not good for overtaking. The Judgment failed altogether. 

Secondly, When you lift your foot off the clutch, you will get a jerk. I mean I am not like taking of the foot with a jolt, I am a sensible driver. So if you lift your feet off the clutch paddle after changing the gears or so, you will get the jerk reminding the driving of the Fiat Permier Padmini !!! You lift your foott from the accelerator after gaining good speed, another fking jerk. I mean there is no good MPFI  programming here.

Now you folks dirve Fiesta Petrol. Please drive it, and gain the speed to 70s or 80s in 2nd gear and let the RPM cross 4X1000, And then --- Lift of your foot just like that - And if you find any jerk - you are free to bash me out of this forum.

I dont know the automobile terminology to explain what sluggish means. But I hope this helps what I am trying to say.

The Same also goes with Diesel. But Fiat Diesel is better than the Petrol in terms of Pickup & Engine Response. I will be surprised if anyone on this forum would say that Fiat Linea's Pickup+drive Quality is similar to Swift Desire Diesel. Swift Desire's drive quality & response is fantastic which Linea fails to match. The reason could be the Weight difference - Linea is heavier.

First of all we are losing direction.

Jerks are quite possible when you drive an unfamiliar car. I did get jerks on Swift & i10. But that wont make me term them as bad. Anyways.Or again maybe I am getting the 'jerk' word wrong.

Not a single person would have claimed the performance of Linea to be better. All have said it to be decent. Also the diesel pickup is sluggish in comparison to Swift/Dzire. But it leaves Fiesta diesel behind by a huge GAP. The pickup of Linea, was something not liked by all. Especially when they detuned it from 90PS for FE concerns.

Performance of Fiesta. Just drive it against an SX4.

Linea diesel it better than its petrol because of the extra torque and turbo with VGT.

Linea is not a car, where you talk about the performance. It is a drawback of the car. The USP of the car is the packaging. Which no car can match. Not even the ANHC. Forget the Fiesta. Last but not the least the spares cost of Linea is far lower than ANHC and Fiesta. ASS is not as good as Honda, but can be considered at par with Ford.

Sluggish - Even I am not an expert. I would call it to be the reluctance to move or the lack of power.

But it leaves Fiesta diesel behind by a huge GAP.

I am Surprised !!!

Anyway, lets get back to the Track.

Do take a TD again, Fiesta Diesel and Linea Diesel.

Sorry to say, But i recommend you to take TD again.

Lets get beack to the Track.

What's your opinion about the Drive Quality of ANHC ?

I shall take it again then.

Couple of stats on Linea vs Fiesta Diesel:

Quarter mile: 19.30 vs 22.5 secs

0-100 : 15.04 vs 17.7 secs

Source: Linea(autocar dec 08) & Fiesta (carwale)

I guess the websites can't be wrong(although I can be).

ANHC: I've always remained a Honda fan. Mainly for the quality and looks. The previous city was a disappoinment because of the lack of power and the looks(compared to the first one). The interiors were awesome and the FE. Refined and hassle-free car. Also, the launch of SX4, Fiesta & Accent made it a slow car.

The new one satisfied me. Looks great, powerful with nice FE. Awesome to drive. Interior looks flashy and best in class(although quality was not as great as the previous one). Audio has CD missing (too futuristic for india). Nice one to drive. Responsive and just rockets. At times you would think whether it matches the Civic/Altis. Steering was responsive. I couldn't drive the paddle shift version. Gear shifts were also smooth. All in all an awesome car and true younger brother to Civic.

My heaviest disappoinment was the lack of Alloys and the huge premium in comparison to SX4 & Fiesta.

Disclaimer: The above opinion about ANHC is that of a layman's.

Well let me try to draw  some common ground here!

I have taken a TD of both the cars under discussion here as one of my collegues was about to buy a new car.

The Linea was emotion PK and the Fiesta the ZXI TDCi.Here are few observations-

-The linea is more powerful but weighs a full 140Kg more than the fiesta.

-the higher torque on the linea is produced at higher RPM(500rmp more than the Fiesta).

-practically the Fiesta was easier to drive  -  period.

-the linea has significant turbo lag and the car comes alive post 2.5K rpm(after that the fiesta does not stand a chance).

-the fiesta is all the more driveable in the city compared to the linea in the city and power is never found wanting(tried a 35 degree gradient with 4 people in both cars).

-so for out and out performance the linea would stand out(as protrayed by Ami in the figures) but in the real world the Fiesta rules.

-leaving the drive train aside the Linea is overall better VFM buy.

Did not TD the petrol so cannot comment on that.

linea is a heavy car than the others in its segment tahn too its power is adequate, actually its gear ratios are set to give better fuel efficiency & the car wins there, power is not bad but picking up in 1st gear is slow but once past to 2nd & 3rd gear it just moves  on & than u slow the speed & than again accelerate ull not have to change the gears & the car will easily pickup.

i too think that if the gear ratios would had been designed differently likr the tourbo kicking in, in the range of 1800-2000rpm than the car would be more fun to drive & one would not feel sluggish at all (this is just my observation what i thought) else the car is very good & overall when compared no one can beat it in size, features, technology & buildquality.

u will nnot fell linea sluggish if u drive it in the way the gear ratios have been designed but if u try driving it in ur way & like any other car does drive than ull not have a positive opinion about this car.

all in all if bit power be compromised than it is one of the best in its segment, the diesel one.