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#11 02-Nov, 2008 06:11 PM
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@Pradeep, the data is normally correct & updated.  In any case, you can re-check those.

 

Regarding mileage, like Binoy said, there isn't substantial difference in the mileage of these cars - they would give in the range of 12/14 in city & 16/18 on highway (depending upon the driving conditions & style).

 

I too reiterate, i10 is the best choice amongst the all.  I would rate WagonR/Santro the next followed by Spark.- keeping in view the overall  performance, features, etc. etc. (notwithstanding the price difference).




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#12 02-Nov, 2008 08:01 PM
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As always, I am still in favour of Spark considering Performance & Features. How can one forgets the Price difference of almost 65k? 3.51 Spark LT mumbai ex showroom, 4.15 i10 Magna mumbai ex showroom and 4.22 i10 magna 1.2 mumbai ex-showroom? 65k is small amount if am buying a small car? similar segment? Atleast I cant rate i10 in league of the Swift & U-va.

 

Have a look at this comparision .... everyone is having his personal choice....  but what is the use of term Value For Money if one dont wanna compare the Features & Price Difference. Almost similar features and Price difference? doesn't matters really coz 50-60k is nothing amount if one is going to buy a car? Why we use to compare the Resale then? the difference is not more than 50k in any car's case... correct me if I am wrong!

 

Again, I visited today First Choice because some work was pending in that Scorpio which my bro-in-law bought, today I went there on my Spark and asked opinion, Feedback.... this is one of the best small car! though not selling in good no.'s ..... I replied they are selling almost 2300 units per month (i use to check every month, because I have joined Chevy Spark community and there you can see some news flash as Related News.... GM sales up 5.31% in October with 4390 units of Spark .. All time high sales since its launch, reason.... car is good, buyers are getting positive reviews). Even that guy was not aware about this and he told me that one of his fren is using Spark LT red and car is fantastic.

 

i10 is definitely a good car, providing you some luxury in small segment, definitely very good in terms of looks & interiors but still its a small car. If one can afford some extra luxury, i10 is very good... but mileage of i10 is not very good and difference of 2kmpl does matters for those who drive car on regular basis, its nothing if one will use car on weekends/holidays or once in a while.

 

Check this link, I got it from orkut..... Spark is touching 150kmph

 http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=f0JVZdNTzvo

Spark @175kmph http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=uCDra-LHk2E&feature=related

 




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#13 02-Nov, 2008 10:06 PM
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Hi to all...readers, I have been reading everyones review here,this is my first reply. I read your desire to buy your First car, & as per all the requirements you have mentioned, I recommend you a Santro, depending on the service station available in your home town. I would not suggest you for i10 as its best for international safety aspects but, not for indian roads, On Indian roads we need something indginised as like Maruti , TATA & Hyundai. I would strongly disagree for Spark as per your choice , You have asked for a Good Resale Value whereas Spark is not that successful car so you cant consider resale on spark, I have Overheard Hyundai stopping production of Santro Next Year, Not sure about it. I would not recommend Zen estilo as it will be also replaced by a new model by maruti, All overheard. Wagon -R is a better choice for you, As your wife also wants to drive,Female prefers tall cars. Just if you can come to 5 Lk budget you can go for Swift Vxi, but as you mentioned your first car & new drivers you have to be careful of the oversize body shape, depends on indviduals driving skills, but its the best in its class. As per your present requirement I recommend you Santro or Wagon R, i10 or Swift( i10 Sports 1.2 & Swift Vxi or i10 Magna 1.2 & swift Lxi in mumbai has a price difference of approx 10,000 only onroad in Mumbai). Finally I wont ask you to restrict to your budget for your first car if you increase your budget by 1 LK. you just hav to pay 1 year extra EMI . But , Please dnt adjust yourself or your budget on going for mid models, Like Era in i10 or Lxi for maruti. as u'll repent later in future for not availing few basic facility if u go for Magna or Vxi for just a few thousands rupees which would hav increased your EMI by few hundered rupees only. First car is always pride car, My first car was a Santro LE base model whereas Family's first car was 800, was very tight on budget[]when i bought it. but now feel i could hav waited few months n gone for top model, Now I have a Accent Gls & Swift Vxi. I know you are the best person to decide , there is another option for TATA vista. but, its upto you, just go in carwale's used car resale value of your car, take out any car suppose 2004 model of base model & best model. compare the price drop for all...the models you select , suppose santro xing 2004 base & consider palio base or tata indica base or zen 2004 lxi, compare all of them for around 40,000 km's compare price & u'll know who has the best resale. Once again its your own decision. you are the one who will pay .

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#14 03-Nov, 2008 12:00 AM
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@ Pankaj Kumar,

Hey Pankaj I am using Spark LT and used 800, Wagon-r & Santro earliar. In diesel I used Indica DLG, presently at home we have Ford Fiesta 1.4 TDCi Exi (base) & Spark, I bought Xeta GLG too my cousin Ravi is using Xeta presently, My Friends/Partners r using Santro & Ikon Flair. I am a car buff u can say.... I just love cars...... here the asker is asking about the Small cars and the best availabe is Hyundai i10 but i10 is pricy...  I am using Spark, may be you can think Rajiv is biased but this is not the case really, I am reaching 19000kms (ragad k use kari) and as far as Performanc is concern its too good a car, good performace, good mileage, good ride quality, good comfort inside, good for city use, good for highway use, maintenance is not much, And as far as Resale Value is concern, though its a new car and its Chevrolet Brand from General Motors, I used the same Carwale Tool and result is as under:

 

Wagon-r Vxi/Santro XO/Spark LT, model April 2007 with running 20000 kms in good condition in New Delhi

 

Wagon-r: 3,12,900

Santro: 3,03,000

Spark LT: 2,89,100

 

I mentioned the Resale Value as per carwale used car value tool, just to show that the resale is not Poor, there is some price difference too and if you calculate its almost similar and 10-15k doesnt matters really. Its not worthy to say that Resale is not good without even checking the resale, though I guess if one search, its really hard to get Used Spark as its pretty fresh and very good car and mostly users are very happy with the performance of car. The only issue was GM's old image, maintenance point of view but maintenance is not much, also One knows the Upper limit for next 3years/45000 kms. or else he can go for cashless ownership offer (cost is 10k for next 3 years/45000 kms)... So, now Maintenance is really not a big issue with Spark.

 

Yes, Frankly speaking i10 is the best Supermini in India and hyundai's network is good but that doesnt means maintenance is less, its almost similar and there is a parts price comparision at GM's site and I dont think that world's top company is showing wrong info at website. i10 though is a better car but again its not cheap, its costly enough.

 

Sales Figures, earliar GM made a mistake when GM lauched this car what was the price? Do u remember? and now? Just imagine current price of Spark at the time of Spark's launch.... and dont forget that production was very small, somebody told me earliar 2000 units per month only. And every month GM sold this no. or more than that.

 

Every car is good and no car is bad, its upto the user to pick one as per his liking/preference/budget and most importantly looks.... looks does matters!




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#15 03-Nov, 2008 09:53 AM
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Hi ,
I guess there are few features in Sparks LT 1.0 which are even not

present in i10 Magna 1.2 like Rear defogger,rear spoiler,Fog light,rear

wiper,  So if you compare for features then Spark LT 1.o should be

compared with i10 Sportz 1.2 i10 Magna 1.2.
Spark LT 1.0 has fog light but i 10 sportz is not having fog light. fog

light is present only in i10 asta.
and Magna will be approx costilier to  Spark by 70,000 and 1-10 sportz

approx approx 90K ( if i consider -12 to 15 K for Music system provided

in Sportz), So in that Case I guess I10 sportz will be much better deal

than i10 magna 1.2.
it will be of great help to me in taking my decision if  anyone suggest why should I spend 90K more in i10 sportz than spark  LT 1.0 . Is it just for looks and better power/torque/cc or is there anything else.

@rajiv paraskar- Hi rajiv , Can you point out the features which are present in Spark LT 1.0 but not in i10 sportz/magna.

@Pankaj kumar , Hi pankaj, you have written that i10 is more suitable than internatonal roards not for indian roads. Do you want to say that for indian roads Santro will be better than i10 magna or sportz. pls clarify the reason also.

Can anyone tell me about ground clearance of i10 and Santro.

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#16 03-Nov, 2008 11:52 AM
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Normally we don’t buy a car for features like Rear Wash Wiper, Defogger Rear & Front Fog Lights.  Such features are additional benefits if other aspects & main features remain same / at par (all in all).

 

There are various good/excellent reviews on M800 & Alto – that’s because they are good in themselves.  But that doesn’t mean that they are better than Spark.  Like-wise, Spark is not comparable/better than i10 (any version) & others under reference – though good in itself & a VFM car.

 

I suggest (only), finalise your budget first.  Thereafter, short-list a few cars based on your preferences, likes & dislikes, and choose a car therefrom that suits you all in all (after test-drives; with family).  If budget is flexible / not a problem, like it appears in your case, go for best available car in the amount you can spend maximum – in your case i10 (any version that suits you better).

 

Anyway, here’s a comparison amongst Spark & the 2 versions of i10 1.2 (Magna & Sportz) referred by you.  Please go through Specifications, Features & All Features so as to have a better comparison/clarity.




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#17 03-Nov, 2008 05:14 PM
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@pankaj Prasad
Hi Pankaj
I have decided my budget to 4 lacs. It will be my 1st car , I will pay

50K down paymaent and rest on loan for 4-5 yrs.I will be flexible for

50-60 K.Max EMI I can pay is 10-12K Per month.
Even I have to learn driving also. I will purchase the car , then will

keep a driver for 1-2 months then will learn driving  Either with the

help of driver or from a driving school and afterwords I will start

driving in my own .  
Second point that I dont want to decide in hurry so that afterwords I

regret about my decision.
Pankaj as you have mentioned that Fog light, Defogger and Rear wiper

should not matter in selection of car. Can you suggest what are points

which I should consider for deciding my 1st  car.
As Santro and Spark are coming in same budget . Which one will you

suggest for me.

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#18 03-Nov, 2008 08:41 PM
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Santro is better car.  i10 is even better.  You can consider i10 Magna 1.1 - it will come in your budget with discounts. It has got good features including the ones you have referred to & many more - check this LINK (go through the Specifications, Features & All Features).

 

Besides, it has good power (67ps @ 5500rpm) & torque (99nm @ 2800rpm).  Overall performance is very good & so is the driving pleasure.  It is also more spacious & comfortable.




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#19 03-Nov, 2008 09:02 PM
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Dear all,
I found a good link for comparison of  iRDE and KAPA engine , May be help full   http://www.gaadi.com/expert-reviews-201-i_versus_i 


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#20 03-Nov, 2008 09:17 PM
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Well, i10 Kappa 1.2 is definitely better than i10 1.1.  It gives 80ps of power @ 5200rpm & 111nm of torque @ 4000rpm.

 

If you can stretch your budget for it, it would be even better.  Here's a comparison amongst 1.1 Magna, 1.2 Magna & 1.2 Sportz




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