Honda Jazz - Reports on prices being slashed by 1.74 lacs from post 83 onwards

Just a thought - What is the big point in specifying peak power at waaay high RPM, somewhere close to the red line where you would bump into the rev limiter as soon as you reach it? Jazz specifies a 90 PS (noway remarkable) @ a whopping 6200 RPM. Anybody ever lived to tell after using that high RPM for any useful duration?

In my opinion the power and torque statements should be limited to a specific % of RPM below the redline, to make it useful/meaningful as a spec. Wotsay guys?

Right Krishna.

In my opinion, You will really feel the difference in all manner if your car is with high capacity.

On the official website - the launch date is out - June 10

Krishna, as a Economy lover i totally agree.

Pure Dragracers and speedsters might not.

But in my personal opinion, i not only agree with you but would also like to point out thats its becoming a "trend" nowadays.

Tweaking the engine a little more to get that extra power out of it at extra R.P.M and ofcourse when extracting best economy the RPM is nowhere near this redline so the fuel efficiency remins the same.

biggest Examples of the recent times are-

Honda City i-vtec (to match the Sx4)

Toyota Corolla Altis (for the Civic)

A-Star (for the Santro and i-10 Irde)

Ritz for the KAppa ! 

Am i right ?

Hi,

I am one of those to have rented out this car during my days in Australia about 3 years back. My first experience was that it was a competent car with a lot of space in it - It is very spacious inside and has a tall boy like driving position (though from the outside it looks puny).

It doesn't have the same sporty feel to it as the Swift, but, the engine is very responsive. The stability of the car is amazing inspite of it being a taller car. It has a build quality that is representative of it's family - Just as other Honda cars. Unfortunately, the plastics indeed feel a little cheap - But are still ages ahead when compared to that of a Swift.

Somehow, it didn't fly initially in Australia and they have infact got a newer model. The newer model is doing very good.

I am not going to gungho about this one as the versions in each country are different with what is needed specifically for that market. I have heard "Rumours" that it is going to sport a dual cam 1200 CC engine for India - But considering the size of the car that it is, I am a bit apprehensive that it is going to be sluggish. I am not going to believe in these till the time that the car is launched and we can see it in meat and blood !!

I haven't made a note of the mileage it delivered me as I have rented it for a day (My daughter's first birthday) and used it for very few KMs - infact, my wife scolded me after spending the 60 AUD rental charges and the low usage done (hardly 15 kms). Even the Sales person from the rental shop gave me a glance.

Nevertheless, www.drive.com.au is a site where I am a regular and is one of the top sites in Australia. For some reason, they always rate the Swift and the Yaris higher. Infact, they have liked the Swift so much that they kept it with them for 6 months.

This, apart from Karan and Ashish @carwale were the reasons I have narrowed down on the Swift.

Regards,

K Prasad

Sorry for the random question, was just looking for an immediate answer.

Jazz has a better power to wight ratio than the i-20 ?Am i right ?

Since now Jazz is launched, hows the prices friends.

Still you feel hyundai i20 is overpriced?

Yes - IT surely does - But that doesn't mean anything as we need to take the gear ratios as well into consideration. Also the performance at the lower revs zones is what matter as that is where most of the usage will be and not at RPMs of 6700 etc which is where Jazz has the max output.

Secondly, being a tallboy, the Jazz will have much higher air resistance to handle than the more streamlined i20 - So, when the peak power actually matter (i.e, at high speeds), Jazz does have a problem in hand because of that huge build and air resistance because of that.

Regards,

K Prasad

a slight correction ..Jazz's max Power is achieved at 6200 and not 6700 RPM.

(Source-Carwale site )

But yes, your point remains pretty valid and in-tact.

Cheers.

I don't know, but I can't help but dig out points that go against Jazz...

I was just looking at this comparison, and quickly it became apparent that the top line Jazz is not only comparable to the topline Ritz (available at 2.7L less than the topline Jazz), but in quite some depts, it is LESS than the Ritz being compared with...

The topline Jazz (active) does not have tubeless tyres??!!! Ditto about Rear windshield wiper, alloys, and you would never guess, it lacks a TACHO!!

Looking at the other specs, the ritz is almost as heavy (1030 vs. 1055), very much comparable in width, length, and actually TALLER. The peak power just fraction less, but it is also measured at 200 rpm less as compared to the Jazz. The peak torque is actually higher, and that too at lower rpm.

So that leads one to wonder, what in the world is there in the Honda that commands this 2.7L premium? Would one not be happy with the Ritz, because it will not only approach Honda's FE, but also have the great advantage of Maruti Service assurance, all the features are anyways comparable. Wot u say guys?