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#11 20-Mar, 2010 02:07 PM
Waheed
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i have maruti 800 and it is facing the self start problem. please suggest me which is the best self starting motor available in the market



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#12 20-Mar, 2010 08:37 PM
Krishna
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Waheed, what is the problem? Starting trouble could involve battery, self motor, wiring, engine etc, individually or severally. You can use the forum help to pinpoint the issue and then take action on the conclusion. I don't believe members will have motor brands and their relative ratings handy, and it is secondary to solcing the problem.

Please post the issue so you can set it right properly.

BTW, Welcome to CW forums!



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#13 15-Jun, 2010 12:16 PM
Nirmal
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@ rohit.b.d

I have had the same self start problem with the 2000 model 4speed 800. The problem is often with the wiring and not the alternator. If left un-checked it will drain your battery.

I dint clearly understand the parasitic load function.And also the instrument....did it mean the multi meter that reads the load to confirm battery? as the indicator? well if is about any connection through to the battery that was mentioned as parasitic load ( without an AC cable ) please do let me know...



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#14 15-Jun, 2010 12:23 PM
Rohit B.D.
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Nirmal - its not easy to diagnose your problem without seeing the car. First thing to do is check the battery at any battery shop - all its cells must be in good working condition. If even one cell is weak, its is best to replace the battery with a new one - batteries older than 3 years and/or those that are consistently allowed to discharge more than 80% start to go weak.

That said, if your car can be started after abut 6-7 days of non-use, it means that the battery is in good condition.

For parasitic loads, show the car to a car electrician - the local garage will have one.




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#15 01-Aug, 2010 11:21 PM
Satish
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I washed my 800 today and since then it isn't starting. I don't whats wrong with the car. Self  start isn't working. Can some one help me with this.

This is the first time I am writing any post in any o the forums... 



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#16 02-Aug, 2010 10:44 AM
Selva Kumar
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Satish, Welcome to Carwale!

Before washing, did you stuff cloth / rag inside Exhaust pipe?  Remove it.

Did you water-wash Engine compartment?  You are not supposed to do it in an old car.  Use Hair-drier with extension chord and thoroughly dry electrical connectors inside engine compartment.




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#17 15-Jan, 2011 11:12 PM
Yogesh Kkumar
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hello frnz

m new to this so could u plzz help me

actually few dayz back i got a maruti 800 98 model...in the starting i drove it normally in 1st gear (i was learning )..bt few dayyz back mine frnd took a ride ..it waas running quite wel(4-5 min)l bt suddenly engine stops ...we self strated it many times it strats and then band ho jaati....we also pushed it bt nothing  hhappend ...when i showed it show mechenic he took time to search the problem ...bt finally he toold me that problem is in pump it costs u 300/-...should i believe that mechnics or smthing elese ...help me guyzz..

rply as soon as possible



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#18 17-Jan, 2011 02:45 AM
Amar K
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Posted by rohit.b.d.
Get both batteries checked (they check each cell with a sort of indicator which changes colour depending on the state of the cell) - sometimes even new ones have manufacturing defects. If the batteries are fine then check if there is any parasitic load across the battery terminals. This load basically means that even after you take the key out, there is some path for the current to flow. If you understand electrical basics this simply involves disconnecting the cable that goes into the +ve pole of the battery and connecting an ammeter between the cable and the +ve pole WITHOUT turning on the battery. Ideally the meter should read zero. If the meter reads anything in excess of 500mA you could have a parasitic load which will drain the battery if the engine (and hence the alternator) is not running. Assuming a typical rating of 50Ah for the battery, a load of 500mA without any charging will discharge the battery within 100 hours, that's approx. 4 days. Be very careful if you do this yourself, a car battery has enough juice to sustain in excess of 200A for a short duration - that's a serious hazard. Better would be to let the mechanic check the things.

Hi Rohit:

I repeatedly noticed that your response is always very sharp, focused and technical.  Should I conclude that you are a practical EE type of expert?  I have noticed that some Auto battery stores have a new smart box (device), which they connect to your car battery.  They will ask to turn on the engine and within minutes it prints out all the information (condition) about your battery and charging circuit.  I think OEM battery of M800 is cheap and old fashioned, and sometime when mercury dips, it may get morning sickness.




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#19 14-Dec, 2011 12:13 PM
Rishu Dhiman
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The whole "starting your car in cold weather" thing can be a big problem for people who live up north, and especially for people who live in really cold places like Alaska. There are three reasons why cars are hard to start when it is cold.

Reason 1 - Gasoline, like any other liquid, evaporates less when it is cold. You have seen this -- if you pour water onto a hot sidewalk it will evaporate a lot faster than it will from a cooler place like a shady sidewalk. When it gets really cold, gasoline evaporates slowly so it is harder to burn it (the gasoline must be vaporized to burn). Sometimes you will see people spray ether into their engines in cold weather to help them start -- ether evaporates better than gasoline in cold weather.

Reason 2 - Oil gets a lot thicker in cold weather. You probably know that cold pancake syrup or honey from the refrigerator is a lot thicker than hot syrup or honey. Oil does the same thing. So when you try to start a cold engine, the engine has to push around the cold, gooey oil and that makes it harder for the engine to spin. In really cold places people must use synthetic motor oils because these oils stay liquid in cold temperatures.

Re­ason 3 - Batteries have problems in cold weather, too. A battery is a can full of chemicals that produce electrons (see How Batteries Work for more information). The chemical reactions inside of batteries take place more slowly when the battery is cold, so the battery produces fewer electrons. The starter motor therefore has less energy to work with when it tries to start the engine, and this causes the engine to crank slowly.

All three of these problems ­can make it impossible to start an engine in really cold weather. People either keep their cars in heated garages or use "block heaters" to get around these problems. A block heater is a little electric heater that you plug into the wall to keep the engine warm.



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