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#241 17-Feb, 2010 01:01 PM
Pankaj Prasad
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debashis, the posts of other person (not you) have been deleted, as, despite repeated requests that he should refrain from posting contact details & instead discuss the matter here in the thread itself (so that ALL benefit), he continued with his ways. 

In your case, of the earlier 2 posts, 1 was deleted, as it had reference to the other person (whose posts have been deleted).  That post of yours had no material information - except your enquiring about the technology (as in post 239 above).

Anyone is most welcomed to discuss the technology - provided it is in convergence with the Rules & Guidelines.  This has been discussed in this thread earlier too.




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#242 19-Feb, 2010 11:54 AM
Purushothaman
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Hello everyone,,

I registered in the forum today. W4G is no new technology but it is only a suppressed invention by the so called governments to sell oil (hope everyone knows abt this). I don't mean to offend any govt but fact is a fact.

I m no engineer or mechanic. I am an IT guy but have a strong flair for testing new things.

Personally, i have bought these books in 2008 and i DID build an electrolyser!! and it works if u follow the process set in the books. Well that said, i hooked it in my car (Indica DLS) and ran a test. i had a definite improvement in power but i could not use it contiunuously becoz by diesel engine doesnot have enough vaccum to suck out the produced gas in the unit. i get a suction only above 2500 rpm which is not helping me becoz generally my diesel car doesnot go beyond 2000 rpm under standard driving conditions (even on highways).

I eventually kept this project on hold for an year due to various personal & family circumstances. BUT i am back to work on this now. I have even found a way to push the gas out of the unit using a small air pump.

I am putting some final touches to it and i shall do a road test starting March 2010.

I am from chennai & i want to know if anyone in this forum is from chennai and would like to join me in this project. Mail me **************  if u r interested.

Thanks & look fwd to make this a success story

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#243 19-Feb, 2010 12:34 PM
Debashis
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I am also interested in this project & really it is a nice project . recently I have collected the bolos from W4G . still I building the electrolyzer for my Marti Zen 2003  

                    

I have some queries

 

1)    How u connect the electricity. is there any resistance or “MAP sensor”

2)    What electrode ur using stainless steel wire or plate. and what is the ratio of “electrode” and “amps”

3)    Is that PCV enhancer able able in market.

 

More quarries I have, 



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#244 19-Feb, 2010 12:35 PM
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Purush, if your car does not go beyond 2000 rpm even on the highway, it obviously needs serious repairs. I suggest you take off the electrolyser, undo all the modifications for watergas, and get a proper servicing done from authorised service station.

Why should someone volunteer and have something similar done to their cars, where they are stuck below 2k mark even on highways?



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#245 19-Feb, 2010 12:55 PM
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Hi Krishna,

There was a typo in my post. it shud read 3000 (@ 90-100 kmph) & not 2000. My car works fine with/without the electrolyzer and i do regular service at authorized service center.


Posted by debashis

I am also interested in this project & really it is a nice project . recently I have collected the bolos from W4G . still I building the electrolyzer for my Marti Zen 2003  

                    

I have some queries

 

1)    How u connect the electricity. is there any resistance or “MAP sensor”

2)    What electrode ur using stainless steel wire or plate. and what is the ratio of “electrode” and “amps”

3)    Is that PCV enhancer able able in market.

 

More quarries I have, 

Hi Debasis,

I have not tested this on petrol yet. i only have a diesel car which doesnot need PCV/MAP sensor.

I use SS 316L for the electrodes. connect the + & - as detailed in the book to the electrodes. don't forget to add a 10A fuse for the + wire. And make sure u hook it to the ignition 2nd step becoz u don't want to generate gas when engine is not running. Take help of a good car electrician to do the wirings.



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#246 15-Apr, 2010 01:51 PM
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Sealed Friends I admit. I have finished reading this entire thread but i am yet to understand whts going on! I guess I am just plain stupid!! Cry

All i have to say is i get a mileage of around 17 with 20% Ac use in my Alto LXi in Delhi/Noida traffic. And i drive cautiously and light foot. And when the stretch is empty i do a 80-90kmph. And i donot brake hard and try to anticipate the trafic ahead. Now how can a book instruct me to get more mileage? Am i not following the rules of good mileage already? 17 is a hell lot of mileage for me. There should be an end to a man's need!!!

To everyone of you who are busy implementing this watergas concept, my best wishes! trying out new things is good. All the best. Smile



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#247 09-Jun, 2010 09:02 AM
Urmilesh Kumar
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Dear Banwari Lal,

I am interested to read the books. can you please find some time and send me both the books.

Regards



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#248 09-Jun, 2010 09:09 AM
Urmilesh Kumar
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@Debashis

theoretically hho can give some relief on the engine,especially on power. perhaps it give good results in old generation cars.results could be poor in cars fitted with electronic injection and oxygen sensor.hwever the suppier's claim of 30-79% is false.moreover,this system draws higher power from the batteryso that fter a night drive yourbattery will be completely dead. many people have reported this complaint with system fitted by samz at coimbatore. i am however experimenting with this system and shall post the results in due course.

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#249 16-Jun, 2010 02:52 PM
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Hi Banwari,

I am Anand from Chennai, having Fiat Palio Stile and want to improve the milage of my car.  I doing some small test at my home on this technology but due to my nature of office work I could not spend more time on this to do R&d.  Please share those eBooks which may be useful to speed my tests.

Thanks, Anand.



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#250 29-Sep, 2010 03:16 PM
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Continuing aquacar's posts here from http://www.carwale.com/forums/ViewThread-8874-p2.html#post195963

Posted by aquacar

yes thats the point, If people start using water instead of oil what will the petrochem industries do? Well its their business and big bucks! I could give you a million proofs whether it'll work or not and there is No need for that as its no rocket sceince & that the testing materials maybe unobtainable You should try it on some vehicle which you can spare or a friend has and it'll give you good results trust me.  well as for the company they don't do much propoganda but its a V.good compnay. See here girirajsystems( dot)com pretty decent company good reputation, I surely would've tried it if  i had the resources. Thank you.

Its not about oil companies. Simply put its just not practical to split water into hydroxy and then use that to power engines. The energy density of fossil fuels is much higher than any other practical source. Of course there are things with much greater energy density - like uranium, which can yeild a huge amount of energy with a few kilos, but extracting that energy requires huge cost. Not practical for passenger vehicles. So fossil fuels are the next best alternative.

If, even for a moment we assume that hydroxy can be used, how will it be produced on a large scale? it would require a large amount of electricity to electrolyse a lot of water. Where will that electricity come from? From generators of course. And what will run the generators? Engines (at least a majority of them). And what will fuel the engines? Fossil fuels. So in all fossil fuel is still burnt. If not in cars that much (and more) will be burnt for the electricity generation required to produce hydroxy gas in proportions required for mass market use. Impractical.




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