You are here : Community » Forums » The Thinking Pad » Water4gas India
Today's Posts | Search Forums

Water4gas India

#11 29-Jun, 2008 09:57 PM
Banwari Lal Sharma
City: Navi Mumbai




Girish,

I didn't question your ability or competency. Rather I questioned your approach. In your very first post you presented yourself as want-to-do-something-innovative, in less than eight days time you started selling fellow-members the ebooks you had bought. And not too later, you came up with the fact that you have some astonishing tried-n-tested products in your bag. And now you say that you have been working on this for years. It sounds strange, doesn't it?

Would you like to explain: why this approach?



It's three months of hard-hunting but haven't been able to find a decent name for CarWale Forum. Can you help? Write to banwari at carwale dot com please. If we like your name, you will get a permanent credit for it in the community profile page. And a royal treat from me! ;~)
Total Posts: 3738 Quote
#12 29-Jun, 2008 10:58 PM
Girish
Driven




Banwari
kindly read water4gas india forum more accurately then you will come to know I have started a movement of informati n. I am the first who puchased water4gas ebook. now if some body require it then  he may subcribe for some reasonable amount Mr Satish has already purchased and started his work in H'bad. Now the movement means all should work together and tranfer information and results it is not easy work and one can get information about pros and cons from others. i am not selling any thing I just informed what I have to other fellow members. This is not starange and no problem of my approach . Banwari I  read your deatils in Intro from that I just want to tell you that you do not have any experience of innovative work and problems we face in practical.  My 10 years experience is to make clear what kind of person I am. If carwale has any problem let us know


Total Posts: 29 Quote
#13 30-Jun, 2008 12:33 AM
Banwari Lal Sharma
City: Navi Mumbai




Girish,

You made me research on this Water4Gas thing for last two hours. I thank you for bringing the thing up, it has been very interesting thing. My conclusions:

  • The owner of the site Water4Gas.com, Ozzie Freedom is selling the opportunity. Fuel prices are on all time high hence he is creating the hype and cashing it.
  • Nobody has actually tested and verified it. There is no single authentic entity to back it up. Everything is in the air.
  • If it was really easy and implementable thing then why didn't Ozzie created kits and sell them? If a person is so knowledgeable, that he can write a 400-pages book, developing the technology won't be a big deal for him.
  • The theories provided in the book sound fundoo but they are just non-implementable. In any case, 99.9% of the buyers of the book are going to fail in implementing anything.

Yes, Girish. I have no experience in all this but I am experienced enough to differentiate the scam and the invention. CarWale.com does have a problem here. We have problem when someone tries to sell something. If you are really starting a movement of information, give away the interested people the copies of the books for free!



It's three months of hard-hunting but haven't been able to find a decent name for CarWale Forum. Can you help? Write to banwari at carwale dot com please. If we like your name, you will get a permanent credit for it in the community profile page. And a royal treat from me! ;~)
Total Posts: 3738 Quote
Last Updated: 30-Jun, 2008 12:33 AM, by Banwari Lal Sharma
#14 30-Jun, 2008 08:53 AM
Girish
Driven




banwari
I am surprised of your knowledge even you have internet medium.
1.if you purchased and read the books you will get 15 % milage improvement by changing driving habits
2. If all is in air then what is magdrive is doing to produce professional hho generator with 1 year warranty and 90 days money back gurantee in US it has 5000 $ deaership fees . There are more than 30 dealers and 6 in international
3. ozzie has not selling the kits but doing a movement to gather all information and upgrades even the deatils of spares mfr. and traders.
4. nothing comes free and why it should you are going to save your own fuel expenses then why it should be free. Peoples in India are  lazy for small innovations or kyzens. Every one want every thing free
5 I am not here to sell products for that I have my own website and kindly ask Mr. Shinde and Mr. Jawalkar for  what response they gave me for FUEL MAX advertise on carwwale.
This is my last reply to you because from your  last reply and your 2 hours of
 research  I got your thinking level. so others are welcome.

Happy milage


Total Posts: 29 Quote
Last Updated: 30-Jun, 2008 08:56 AM, by Girish
#15 30-Jun, 2008 11:41 AM
Charles
City: Thane
Long-termer




Dear Mr.Girish,
         Do let CarWale know when you have a fully tested, RTO-certified automobile; we'd love to test it. We have satellite-based data-logging equipment that will acquire irrefutable proof of your claims. That should silence all your critics.
          Whenever you're ready, Mr.Girish, give us a shout.


Regards,
Charles Pennefather.


Total Posts: 133 Quote
#16 30-Jun, 2008 09:29 PM
Girish
Driven





we do not reuire testers but rather DIY peoples. This is not going to 1 or 2 % improvement for which i require GPS based equipments.  it is going to  huge noticiable  improvement not in  only mileage but  power also. What RTO certified automobile do you understand the difference between explosive approved  devices and other gadgets. Water4gas doesnot require any certificates nor approvales. I will not give give any call time will tell the truth. toady crude corssed 143 $  what else shout you require.

happy mileage


Total Posts: 29 Quote
#17 30-Jun, 2008 11:07 PM
Anup Singh
City: Mumbai
New Arrival




Buddy I am really excited abt the tech you are talking but I have one doubt. Fuel prices have touched the sky and condition is expected to become only worse. In this scenario why manufacturers don't adapt to this wonderful technology? Whoever uses this technology first will become best-seller overnight. What is stopping them? Maybe it is very hard technology for us but for manufacturers who have strong R&D teams, it's nothing.

I am not criticizing you but I am really curious. Car makers arrange mileage drives and try promoting their cars falsely. If they could adapt to this technology, they could have something to boast about, and that too genuinely.



Total Posts: 24 Quote
#18 30-Jun, 2008 11:42 PM
Girish
Driven




pl read my earlier replies and vist www.somender-singh.com for more details. stronge R&d teams are ruined out in a one day if they accepts all this. If you have carbon free engine more powerful low maintainance long time oil change interval and very good milage then by all this who gets benifitted. Neither govt nor automobile manufacturer.  Who wants to sell a vehicle who lasts more than 25 years and consumes minimum possible fuel. it is user my friend. In Mumbai 1000 crores are wested in road making what is today condition. If i am not wronge kindly bring VCD of  a 1970 film LOVE IN TOKYO  and see the roads.

Happy mileage


Total Posts: 29 Quote
#19 02-Jul, 2008 12:15 AM
Anup Singh
City: Mumbai
New Arrival




I read everything in this thread and visited somender-singh.com too. I am convinced about the possibility of running a car on water. But I am not convinced with your answer regarding my questions.

If you think that neither govt nor car makers bother about it then I think I didn't get your point. UPA govt was doing everything until this fuel crisis thing. If they lose in polls next year, it's because of fuel prices. So why won't govt like to save itself by promoting such tech? And car makers, when a magazine write a line about their car's mileage they give full-page ads in newspapers, shouting '24 kpl*' ... blah blah blah. Maruti is losing its market share. Why don't they just implement this technology and sell SX4 the was they have been selling Altos and 800s. It's a bull-fight in the market and you are saying they don't care?

If I was a car maker, I would have been the first to implement this technology in my cars. With this kind of technology with one car maker, either all others will follow or they die.



Total Posts: 24 Quote
#20 02-Jul, 2008 12:32 AM
Banwari Lal Sharma
City: Navi Mumbai




Girish,

You know what, you are acting like a 'Sadhu baba' selling miraculous gems. Neither you have anything to backup your claims nor you want others to try. You think that your water4gas is some miraculous thing and it will prove itself over time. You want volunteers for this godly thing and yet you want to charge them 1,200 rupees.

Everyone, please note: I have both the books. Whoever wants copies of the ebooks, kindly request in this thread (A plain post in thread asking for the books. You don't need to write your email address. I will send the ebooks to the email address you are registered on CarWale.com with). And I will give you both the books for FREE. But write to me only if you have good understanding of the subject. If you don't understand the basics, you will waste your time in understanding them.

Girish, You are highly aggressive and attacking. I have been discussing the technology and you have been trying to judge my thinking level. I could have banned you from the forums and deleted this thread. But I am providing the books for free. So, despite of the fact that you have been insulting me, I am helping you in taking your movement forward. Happy?



It's three months of hard-hunting but haven't been able to find a decent name for CarWale Forum. Can you help? Write to banwari at carwale dot com please. If we like your name, you will get a permanent credit for it in the community profile page. And a royal treat from me! ;~)
Total Posts: 3738 Quote
Last Updated: 22-Jul, 2008 11:49 PM, by Banwari Lal Sharma