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Rohit ,

Trust me you asked a noble question , man they are there to make money , the day you bring something to the market which is not perishable and the business will slow down , then where will they go to make more money ???

Most of the automobile companies know this well , and their main source of income after their car / automobile sales is SPARE PARTS . Once you install a fool proof system which reduces ware and tare of the vehicle , you will have a not buy new spares , so think about a situation where this technology is fitted in all model .. what will happen ..

So i think that answers your question,

i have been watching this forum since the beginning , the sad part is people like criticizing any new innovation and does not want it to be seen on our day to day life .

Rather than promoting these , people are interested in puching it back ... Trust me i see lot of people say lot many things about this technology , other than Praveen who else has tested the technology personally ??maybe 2 or 3 thats all , and when somebody is ready to offer some good idea in saving your money on your gas, looks like people stated treating him like an Insurance agents.

Even though everyone has a comforable automobiles worth their pockets , end of the day the gas consumption as well as maintainance is a worry for everyone .

So lets focus how we can use this technology productive and can be installed in our own vehicles without mush hassles

Praveen if you could let us know on a common man language , what all is required to set this running , you can do that ( if it is for a price , so be it ........)

good luck Anjeel

Dear Rohit,

Please refer to my post #158 on page 16. I think your reply is listed there.

Over and above there is another bad news. You know by altering the Oxygen sensor signal to car ECU we can tune the AFR. Such tuning up also increases the mileage and reduces the concentration of harmful gases in exhaust. In USA one person what caught and fined 5000 USD for using the device to alter the Orxygen sensor. On verification, it was found that the emission from his car was much lower then the normal car. So virtually he has been fined for lower emission ... that is simply ridiculous. But dear Rule is Rule.

Regards

Praveen

Hi Prakash,

Thanks for your post.

I wish to inform you that making such devices is very simple. Only thing is that you need to take some precaution. I am an open source engineer and listed all of my parameters on my website (refer page 16 for my website address) with detailed FAQ section.

I am ready to offer help and support for the persons wanted to build their own device. If somebody wanted a ready made device then can get in touch with me.

With regards to installation, it is very simple and any normal mechanic can do that. Other then mileage booster kit there are electrical parts like Relay, Fuse, Amp meter and on/off switch. The relay gets activated with the ignition key so the Mileage booster produces the gas only when the we are about to start the engine. The circuit diagram is also listed in FAQ section of my website.

Please feel free to contact me for any information or post your qeury here.

Regards

Praveen

@Prakash,

Your point about industries not allowing newer things into the market is true only upto a point. A good example being electric cars - which will threaten oil companies if they gather strong customership. It is also true that many car makers make money in spares - however I doubt if that is their major business. Spares are not necessarily made by the car manufacturer but also by some other suppliers. So I don't think that spares is a driving force behind manufacturers not adopting hydroxy. Besides that won't make an indestructible car - nothing can make a car indestructible. If profit is the motive, then as it is manufacturers phase out their models - which keeps their sales alive. So in all, its hard to buy into what you say.

Rohit ,

I completely agree to what you say , but the point here is if this technology is gonna save some money as well perfomance of the automobile you are using , why not try adapting to this technology . More over there according to the Hydroxy principle , with the help of the gas you are using it as a catalyst for the fuel to burn better . So the  funda is very clear , and is it very much user friendly because you need not do any alterations to the complete system .And if at all anyone is using a petrol or diesel vehicle , if the fuel efficency is incresased by min 20% without any alterations , thats a huge benefit

for ex if an vehicle is getting 10kmpl in cities , with this catalyst HHO you are able to make 2kmpl extra , that makes a lot of sense when when drive though the tough traffic on a daily basis , at the end of the day , a saving is a saving as well as we are putting lesser preseure on mother earth as well as the environment

I think i will definitely try installing this one in my car . Anyway we spend more money on asthetics and perfomance of the car , why not try this if we can save a bunch of 100rs notes in a month ..

Praveen

I would be interested in getting a ready made device, i have bought the book from Ozzies website , never had a chance to experiment it . Let me know the cost involved , you can mail me the details on *********

I use a age old technolgy car - Tata Sierra - Standard version / diesel vehicle - average in cities is around 11kmpl with AC and highways 15-16 with AC .

Let me know you thougts , whether this technology can be fitted in my car

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@Prakash, I am not doubting the hydroxy technology - just that the energy consumed in order to produce enough (i.e., that which will cause a measurable improvement in performance) is greater than the performance improvement itself. Looking at just the engine it may burn fuel efficiently - but that same engine has to power an alternator which is loaded more - so in effect the gaine efficiency is simply spent in running the alternator, leaving less for turning the wheels.

Hi Rohit,

You are 100% correct that oil companies have threat from electric cars even from the megnatic motors.

Did you know that General Motor has produced around 200 electric cars in 1990. These cars were very succesful and given to the user on lease basis. The users were satisfied but suddenly these cars were lifted from the road. Some of the cars were given to Museum and most of them are crashed. Read out more details here

http://www.aa1car.com/library/who_killed_electric_car.htm

Let me tell you that it is all because of the pressure from the oil economy. There is a movie on this topic by name "Who killed electric car?"

You must be aware that Honda has launched the Hybrid car in India. Intially it was costing around 22 lacs (due to 100% duty) but soon the cost reduced to 11 lacs (duty removed). This car was offering 40% more mileage over normal car. But did you know that now there is no supply of Honda Hybrid in India. Is there any body know the reason for this?

I would request to see the movie "Chain Reaction". From this movie you will understand the power of oil economy and it is a truth.

Did you know that in Anual report of Department of Energy, USA has not considered the water as source to produce the Hydrogen. The reason being that they wanted to produce the Hydrogen from Hydrocarbon i.e. Natural gas, Methane etc. The vested interest of many countries does not want on-board production of the Hydrogen. They want to product the Hydrogen and sell it through gas stations inspite of risk of storing huge hydrogen in you car.

I would also like to point you that the carbon available in hydrocarbon is also generating by products like Carbon dioxide etc, when we extract Hydrgen from there. So one side we are reducing the emission of the car exhaust but other side generating Carbon Oxide. I dont think that it is fair and we all need to fight against it.

So Rohit the driving force here is completely different. But I am hopeful that some day the change will come.

Hope the above information is useful for you.

Regards

Praveen

Hi Prakash,

Yes the kit will work on you car. Today only I got the following result

Tata Sumo 2000 cc engine, old model, non-turbo

Base mileage - 9 kms / liters

Mileage with Kit - 12.5 km / liter

Mileage gain - 38.88%

I could not see your mail address here. I think this is edited by the moderator. I really dont understand the logic for this. Moderator if you are listening then drop me a mail to my mail ID to discuss this issue in person. I think people needs to talk something on personal basis and everything cant be put on the discussion board.

Prakash, I request to look for the product details on my website ********

Then we will talk on this.

Regards

Praveen

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