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#161 06-Apr, 2009 06:38 PM
Anjeel
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I did a lot of this tests last year and the year before almost clocking over 10K on my wagon R with HHO.  I was also able to get approx 10-25% gain in mileage.. but hang on...  Was this gain due to HHO?, I am not sure..  I did not do one very imp test, that is to switch on the inter-electronics without HHO booster unit fired up (I mean keep the fuel cell off).  To confirm if this gain was due to map sensor / Lambda adjust?  So this question keeps coming to my mind.  I will be doing these test in Q3-Q4 this year.

Since you are already doing this test, can you suppliment your finding with the above test.  I am almost certain that by playing around with the built in electronics 10-25% gain is not a problem but question is at what cost????  I am not sure if it was due to HHO, but just before I left India, I had my Map sensor blown, my plugs were spitting oil, but my local mechanic said this is common in many cars and more so in chevys



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#162 06-Apr, 2009 07:46 PM
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Posted by Krishna

Praveen, this tells it as it is, boss! We do not want an Indian example of such kind..so take care!Wink

Hi,

You have taken these expample in wrong way. They all are jailed because the oil economy did want them to go ahead with regular production.

Any ways it is upto you to believe or not to believe. I can say only one thing that whenever you have time search and read about the technologies which i have mentioned in my post.

Regards

Praveen



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#163 06-Apr, 2009 07:56 PM
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Posted by Anjeel Babbar

I did a lot of this tests last year and the year before almost clocking over 10K on my wagon R with HHO.  I was also able to get approx 10-25% gain in mileage.. but hang on...  Was this gain due to HHO?, I am not sure..  I did not do one very imp test, that is to switch on the inter-electronics without HHO booster unit fired up (I mean keep the fuel cell off).  To confirm if this gain was due to map sensor / Lambda adjust?  So this question keeps coming to my mind.  I will be doing these test in Q3-Q4 this year.

Since you are already doing this test, can you suppliment your finding with the above test.  I am almost certain that by playing around with the built in electronics 10-25% gain is not a problem but question is at what cost????  I am not sure if it was due to HHO, but just before I left India, I had my Map sensor blown, my plugs were spitting oil, but my local mechanic said this is common in many cars and more so in chevys

Hi Anjeel,

I really do not know the configuration of your electrolizer or booster or fuel cell so it will be really difficult to say any thing on the mileage gain acheived by you. I have lots of data listed on my website with detailed FAQ section, so please have a look of the same. The link of my website is there in this thread only.

I just would like to know, what is the gas output from your device in liter per minutes? What is the average water temperature? etc etc

Yes you can acheive 5-10% gain by altering the Oxygen sensor. There are many free circuits available on the internet. Building these circuit will not cost much to you. I think you can good circuit in 500-1000/- INR. But I am against using these circuits as I dont believe in altering the original factory setting of the engine.

In case you need some help then please feel free to drop me a mail.

Regards

Praveen



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#164 06-Apr, 2009 09:57 PM
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My gas output was over 2 1/2 ltr per min, I lowered the amps to 6 and boosted the voltage to 55-70v so the cell was quite cool, I did buy the electronic gauge from Lajpat rai market to measure temp and it showed less than 55degrees.  [with 13.5v and 55amps it used to touch 130+ celcius] and I could not even touch the steel body of my cell.

I used plate cells with -NN++NN- config for the wet cell.  Alloy used for this was SS, 1ltr water bath, 1/2 teaspoon of KOH.  Map reduced by 1-0.5 volts and 0.25 volts added to lambda.

Hope this answers your question.



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#165 06-Apr, 2009 10:10 PM
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Posted by Anjeel Babbar

Unfortunately even though I have the latest model of scangauge II which is a better way to test the mileage, but it did not work in my wagonR since it is of type OBD Class II and my old wagon R does not support this, as it is OBD Class I only.

For non-OBD-II, MPFI vehicles, you can use MPGuino, a DIY mileage meter.



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#166 07-Apr, 2009 12:04 PM
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Posted by Krishna

Guys, see the HHO scam officially debunked by Popular Mechanics guys here.

The hilaraous part is the article comments are full with raving HHO maniacs insisting that the controlled experiment is wrong and they have been getting those results which the popular mechanics guy did not get after careful experimentation and a kit installed by an HHO 'specialist' Laughing

Hi Krishna,

Please read out the comment 104 on the Hydroxy article on popular mechanic web site. Some of the content are as given below;

"I own a business selling these systems. I offered to bring one of my vehicles to to any location in the lower 48 at any time at my cost and let Popular Mechanics test it. They declined. Something is fishy here."

In fact I have also offered them to test the device at my cost. Let me see what reply I will get from them.

Cheers

Praveen



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#167 07-Apr, 2009 06:42 PM
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Of course you won't look at what the popular mechanics guys DID. Will you? There will be no experiment capable of satisfying any HHO guy, because every experiment other than 'in their own lab' will be either faulty or deliberately botched. So who is the conspiracy theorist?

I did ask on the Mumbaikars' thread about anyone being interested in the 'proof'. Evidently no one was, from the response I got.



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#168 07-Apr, 2009 10:26 PM
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I would only say... Come out and look the new world.

.... I dont need any thing to prove you .. there are many people, who have installed Hydroxy booster on their car and getting good mileage gain... So you won't understand till such time you experience this technology.

Regards

Praveen

Post edited suitably to remove remarks that were unwarranted for & to remove quote (same as previous post; NOT required, therefore).



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#169 08-Apr, 2009 11:32 AM
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Posted by Krishna

Of course you won't look at what the popular mechanics guys DID. Will you? There will be no experiment capable of satisfying any HHO guy, because every experiment other than 'in their own lab' will be either faulty or deliberately botched. So who is the conspiracy theorist?

I did ask on the Mumbaikars' thread about anyone being interested in the 'proof'. Evidently no one was, from the response I got.

Hi Krishna,

Now see the reply on popular mechanics. You will see the worldwide support on Hydroxy now.

I really dont know why you have not got any response from Mumbaikars? I here offer a free 15 days demo of my device on any car having engine size less then 2500 cc. This will be free of cost trail and installation will be from my side. However mileage test before and after will be on cost of car owner (i.e. Fuel expenses). You can send this message to all the people you know in Mumbai.

Regards

Praveen



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#170 08-Apr, 2009 02:47 PM
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@Praveen,

Even if we agree that hydroxy does work, then why is it that no car manufacturer sells cars pre-installed with this? After all, if it improves mileage (which also implies better performance/less emissions), why not? Wouldn't it be great for the manufacturer's brand image?




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