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Great! I had almost lost hopes of Anjeel responding! Also I salute the candid confession!! Not many have the courage to call a spade a spade, and the continuation of HHO scam is a living proof of the sad fact that guys like Anjeel are a minority!

Hey Anjeel, I am sincerely interested in digging into the fantastic milage increases you got while experimenting... Could we go through with a fine tooth comb now? May be the finding could be more important and real than the original stuff being attempted...

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I maintain a log sheet with columns like Date, odo Start, Odo End, Trip, Fuel used, Km/Ltr and remarks like how much was the current, volts, Added voltage to O2 sensor, tea spoons of KoH, Map adjusted resistance value (as this is a pot), Map in voltage / Map out voltage, with or without A/c, average driving conditions like average speed, number of passengers in the car, weather conditions etc..

As I mentioned previously on the two occasions when I got 29 and 21 Kpl the tank refill was done after 100/150 km of drive the difference between a true refill could be 7-9 litrs.  Also when there is an automatic shut, on the refill we sometimes tend to fill and extra ½ to 1 ½ litres more fuel which if not done on the next refill yet again, will give false mileage results.  Since this so called fantastic result did not happen again, I guess it could be the above reason for the previous thought.

Unfortunately even though I have the latest model of scangauge II which is a better way to test the mileage, but it did not work in my wagonR since it is of type OBD Class II and my old wagon R does not support this, as it is OBD Class I only.

Anjeel, In one of your posts you mentioned that the volumetric expansion of hydrogen is 1800 times. I searched everywhere to get that information. Could you provide any reference or link? Most likely that information is wrong. Also can you recollect how much was the water consumption per hour?

Hi joseph.  The volumetric expansion I mentioned was for hydrogen.  In Hydroxy scenerio it is a mix of Hydrogen and Oxygen, (H2 + O) two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen.  If it were hydrogen alone it is definitly 1800 times  in case of hydroxy it will be comparatively less.

You can read more on pure hydrogen if you are interested in the link below:

http://www.anjeel.com/auto/understanding_hydrogen_properties.html

are you considering storing hydroxy??  Think again

Hi Pankaj,

Today only I came to know about this forum. In fact I am working on the Hydroxy gas and converted many vehicle to Hybrid mode. Some of the mileage gain results and details of my device is listed on www.fuelsavedevices.com .

However I am process of taking the mileage gain results from various other cars and will update the same on my website.

So let us save oil and environment.

Regards

Praveen varma, Mumbai

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pvar06@yahoo.com

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Guys, see the HHO scam officially debunked by Popular Mechanics guys here.

The hilaraous part is the article comments are full with raving HHO maniacs insisting that the controlled experiment is wrong and they have been getting those results which the popular mechanics guy did not get after careful experimentation and a kit installed by an HHO 'specialist'

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Dear Krishna,

Thanks for the link on HHO stuff. I wish to infrom you that there are peoples who does not want this technology to come up because of their motive interest. They know pretty well that if this thing will be there in the market then the consumption of oil will get reduced and many countries economy will collapse. For the same reason there is a pressure on the Auto companies for not adopting this technology.

As I know, running the car on water is declared as criminal offence in USA. The reason given for such declaration is that "it may collapse the USA economy" . Why it is so?

Please google the Daniel Dingel. He lived in Phillipines and made a water car around 7-8 years back. Then he met with the president, who supported his invention and promised to assist to start the production of water cars. But this president has lost election and new president has been elected, who again supported his invention. But when they saw the loan agreement of world bank then there was a clause ==== You country will not adopt / promote any technologies which replaces the usages of Fossil fuel ====. Can any body explain me the purpose of such clause in loan agreement?

Subsequently Mr Daniel has shown demo of his car to many investors, but some people have booked them for Fraud and cheating and now he is in Jail. His videos are available on youtube.com.

Please go through the GEET technology. This is invented by Paul Poutan. Using this technology he has demonstrated 95% water and 5% fuel. But unfortunately he is also booked for the fraud and now he is in Jail.

There was a inventor called Stan Meyer. He had developed water fuel injection (WFC). With these WFC you can run the car completely on water. Because of his invention he has been poisned in one restaurant.

Aslo read about the Ravi Raju (from India). You will get the real picture what these people can do.

Also look for Joe cell, John Bedini, Tesla etc. Also have a look on http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Suppression for surpassed technologies.

I am not here to argue on the HHO or no HHO, but I know one thing that this technology is very effective in increasing the mileage of the car also reduces the concentration of harmful gases in exhaust. We are already late in adopting such technologies and I think we should not delay it further else our planet earth will not be suitable for our living in coming years. If you have noticed the average temperature in month of April 2009 is around 1-3 deg above the historical data, that is all because of global warming.                          ................ Contd in 2nd Post ................

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Some of the results based on actual testing are given below;

Santro- 37.33% gain

Maruti 800- 44.44% gain

Balero- 21% gain. Emission down from 56% to 40%.

There are many other results listed on my website. However yesterday I did the 5 installation and the result of same will be available soon. Specially out of these 5 cars one is Honda City old model.

I wish to infrom you that I am making the booster and selling for promotion of this technology. I am into this technology since last 2.5 years and selling was necessary to support my research expenses. So far this is all on part time basis as I am working as GM in one MNC.

I am confident on this technology and assured about the mileage gain and reduction in harmful gases concentration.

I request is to test the technology at your own then only make the comment about it. It will be good for everybody, because the link which you have posted can be searched by anybody. Also think little bit about the global warming issues.

Praveen

Praveen, this tells it as it is, boss! We do not want an Indian example of such kind..so take care!

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