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#31 13-Sep, 2008 09:52 PM
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I am just making my decision between the Swift and the Palio 1.6 and test drove both cars in Bangalore today. Still this morning I was biased towards the Palio, which looks a little larger, stronger and like the better deal with that huge 42k RS discount available at the moment. Until I took them both through town.

The Palio looks larger than it feels, while the Swift is actually larger than it looks. I felt space economy in the front row is way better in the Swift than with the Palio. In the Palio my head was almost in the sun blinds (seat can not be height adjusted) while the Swift has a lot more headroom and more room towards the front. I did not expect that. Built quality of both did not impress me, the Palio had some visible flaws while the Swift was just a little better.

The engine clearly goes to Fiat. The 1.6 has good torque from the low end and willingly revs up, nice little engine. But the brakes - the worst I ever found in a modern car, clearly not up to par with the engine. The brakes just don't grip, even going full force (like: bang!) on the breaks I did not manage to lock the wheels - no wonder there is no ABS, the brakes are so weak you won't need an anti-locking feature

And Palio's cornering - dreadful! That to me is the major letdown with that car. I am from Germany and have driven plenty of good and fast cars, my last car before I moved to India was an M3, so I am spoiled with car handling. There was just no handling at all with the Palio. Abrupt manoeuvres upset the balance and the car goes everywhere but not where you want it. I would not recommend to do any wild things with the Palio if you go 100+ kmh. If there was posh smoothness of the ride one could say, well they sacrificied handling for comfort. I did not even find the Palio particularily comfortable. Potholes really hit and upset the car, disappointing. Something went really wrong with that suspension setup, Fiat has done much better in the past - maybe the flaw is in the adaptation for the Indian market.

The Swift felt like a much more mature car in comparison. The handling is quite good, abrupt manoeuvres yield just what you expect - it is a well balanced car with a plausible suspension setup and a lot of feel for the road. It drives a bit like a go-kart, I like that. The brakes were good, a whole league better than with the Palio. The engine, well, is not where the Palios 1.6 is but still it is good enough. To me handling is more important than raw horsepower.

The design, well, to me both cars look reasonably sharp - while I find the Swift better looking, the sheer amount of Swifts on the streets makes the car loose some personality. The interior of the Palio to me lacks plausibility, it is not bad but not convincing either. The Swift, being more straightforward to me looks like the better interior design package.

But it was how they feel on the roads which flipped the coin. Having driven both, each with a sales guy first turning deep pale and then to a concerned green in the passenger seat, I changed my mind today and will go for a Swift.


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#32 13-Sep, 2008 11:51 PM
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hello,

if u not in hurry & can wait for some time than there are 2 new exciting & heartbreaking cars are coming. the punto & the i20, both are very good cars & worth waiting for.



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#33 14-Sep, 2008 05:59 AM
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Posted by Frank Hund

And Palio's cornering - dreadful!  If there was posh smoothness of the ride one could say, well they sacrificied handling for comfort. I did not even find the Palio particularily comfortable. Potholes really hit and upset the car, disappointing. Something went really wrong with that suspension setup, Fiat has done much better in the past - maybe the flaw is in the adaptation for the Indian market.


Good driving impression of both the cars, but the above seems to be some problem beset to the particular test vehicle. As you have used the M3 before even a regular 3 series will pale in comparison.

But the palio has one of the best ride qualities among small cars, and in my experience provides a very comfortable ride. Handling is a different issue and i do concur to what you have put down.


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#34 20-Nov, 2008 05:27 PM
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Friends, I was about to buy the fiat 1.6 sports as there is a huge discount being offered. But so many new cars are coming within a short span of time. FE is a concern too. This troubles me to hear that SX4 with 1600 cc DOHC engine gives more mileage than Palio !!! Why ??? SX4 is a very big car and powerful to it has got 3 more horses! More speed! Still more average ! Kindly elaborate and advise me right. DJ

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#35 20-Nov, 2008 06:02 PM
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Fuel efficiency / FE is not totally dependent on power and engine CC. It depends on how efficiently the engine tuning and lots of factors. Even I had this misconception.

A similar example is the comparison of Alto and M-800. Both have 800cc engines. Mileage and power is more in Alto.


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#36 20-Nov, 2008 07:19 PM
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there wont be much of a difference between the SX4 and the 1.6 Palio-both should give around 8-10kmpl in the city with 100% AC.


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#37 21-Nov, 2008 05:38 PM
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But my point remains. I asked : Both cars (SX4 and Fiat 1.6) have 1.6L DOHC engines. But SX4 ,inspite of being so big and heavy, gives more FE, more speed and 3 horses more ! Where as small Fiat1.6, is way behind in all these areas !!! Is the Fiat engine is technically inferior ? Kindly explain.

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#38 21-Nov, 2008 05:41 PM
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Check post 35.


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#39 21-Nov, 2008 05:46 PM
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Both engines are tuned differently and more importantly the gear ratios in both the cars(final drive also) are also quite different.


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#40 25-Nov, 2008 05:22 PM
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hmmm... from post no. 35 I infer that Alto's engine is a bit refined than the basic engine. Does that mean SX4 engine is also a bit more refined. Please read that post(35)again. That is what I understand of it.

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