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#1 13-Dec, 2007 03:33 PM
Naveen Vastare
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Hi All,

Need to know which car is best to buy ( b/w Swift ZXi and Fiat PS 1.6)

pls let me know ASAP...to take the decision.

Thanks for your help

naveen

 

 

 

 

 



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#2 13-Dec, 2007 04:39 PM
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Both are very good cars , But Swift Zxi has an Edge over the Palio 1.6 , the Features is better in Swift ZXi and also safety also better , the Palio 1.6 is very powerful SMall car and the new look just Looks coool

The Palio 1.6 is around 60k Rs cheaper than the Swift Zxi

and if you think you can go for the Swift ZXi , it will be a good choice

cheers,

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#3 14-Jan, 2008 04:55 PM
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Palio 1.6 is certainly a better car - build quality is best in class and so is the engine - but, mileage is lesser, maintenance is the key issue with any Fiat - even though they have now joined hands with Tata Motors, Tata Motors themselves are not in good records for post-sales services, so, it doesn't matter much.

So, if Space and build quality is of utmost priority (and you care less for maintenance) to you then  it is Palio 1.6. Else, if you can make a compromise on space but maintenance, performance and mileage are of priority to you, then it is Maruti Swift (I donno why the entire line of Maruti is cramped for space)

Another key point is that Swift will fetch you a higher percentage of returns upon resale.



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#4 14-Jan, 2008 04:56 PM
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Suggest you to take a test drive - if you can fit into the Swift and are comfortable in it, then go for it. Palio is big enuf to take anything.

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#5 14-Jan, 2008 05:30 PM
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Palio 1.6 is too powerful and sporty compared to Swift ZXi.  And its a big hatch compared to the Swift.  And after all its a Fiat design - not a Suzuki. 

If it was not for its mistakes that the INDIAN Fiat arm made - with all its labour union problems - Fiat would be totally ruling India today, even over Maruti. 



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#6 14-Jan, 2008 05:41 PM
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Posted by Suryanarayan Ganesh

Palio 1.6 is too powerful and sporty compared to Swift ZXi.  And its a big hatch compared to the Swift.  And after all its a Fiat design - not a Suzuki. 

If it was not for its mistakes that the INDIAN Fiat arm made - with all its labour union problems - Fiat would be totally ruling India today, even over Maruti. 

Dude , when we compare things lets get straight enough

The power of Plaio 1.6 is 100 n odd and i agree its very powerful but swft is nowhere behind it has a 1.3 L engine that produces 83 Bhp , which is quite sufficent , i also agree the Palios design is very stylish

Lets come to another aspect

Swift ZXi has ABS , Dual Airbags , Alloys , CLimate cntrol , Broder tyres , keyless entry and marutis service better than Tata Fiats

Soo considering these aspects i think the swift ZXi has an Edge over the Palio 1.6

Cheers,

Sri



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#7 14-Jan, 2008 06:00 PM
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The reason the Palio is even more powerful is because it uses the Fiat special Steel - it has a much lower kerb weight compared to Swift - more than a 100 kgs lower, which means that the higher BHP makes it blazing fast compared to the Swift.

In fact, even the Palio 1.1 holds up well because of this, coming up with 52 BHP, and then has brilliant fuel economy too.

True the Swift is better loaded - but then the Palio is also much cheaper.

Finally, what is there to compare with Fiat and Suzuki - India is the ONLY market where Suzuki is doing well due to fact that it did the right thing in the market at the right time UNDER government control - whereas Fiat is globally respected as a great car designer - and owns the Ferrari brand.. can you really compare Fiat and Suzuki?



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#8 14-Jan, 2008 08:57 PM
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Another point is the difference between a euro (italian to be specific in this case) and a non-euro car. In my opinion all euro design cars are longer and little less in height. Say for example if you look at Swift vs Palio (even Getz as it is euro styling) then you could clearly see that Swift has greater head room whereas Palio has greater leg room. See this comparison:

Specs

Fiat Palio Stile 1.6 Sport

Maruti Swift ZXi

Overall Length (mm) 3827 3695
Overall Width (mm) 1620 1690
Overall Height (mm) 1440 1530
Kerb Weight (kg) 1060 1010
Mileage Overall (km/liter) 9.5 12.6

From http://www.carwale.com/research/comparecars/CarComparison.aspx?car1=1149&car2=169. Infact we could also see that Palio has same ground clearance as Swift but is shorter (in height). As this is not a tall boy design sometimes it appears to be short on vertical clear interior space.

Please do not mistake me. I am not saying Palio does not have space. When comparing the front seats Palio has greater horizontal space whereas Swift has greater vertical space. Both are good cars. Personal chioces may vary.

Bhushan



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#9 14-Jan, 2008 09:00 PM
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Well, I agree that fiat is certainly more peppy, but, it also guzzles on petrol mate - gives mileage of 9kmpl at the best. Yes it is tough - but, I am sure you will agree that it needs maintenance - come what may - and when it comes to maintenance, it is a huge drawback - all arguments end there - if not for the pain one has to take maintaining it - even with tie-up with Tata Motors, it would certainly have been the king of hatchbacks (save mileage aspects).

Swift outsells Palio because of the maintenance chores - it is so bad that you see more than 2 Swift ZXis for every palio sport - Do you think people are blind??



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#10 14-Jan, 2008 09:10 PM
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Posted by Suryanarayan Ganesh

The reason the Palio is even more powerful is because it uses the Fiat special Steel - it has a much lower kerb weight compared to Swift - more than a 100 kgs lower, which means that the higher BHP makes it blazing fast compared to the Swift.

In fact, even the Palio 1.1 holds up well because of this, coming up with 52 BHP, and then has brilliant fuel economy too.

True the Swift is better loaded - but then the Palio is also much cheaper.

Finally, what is there to compare with Fiat and Suzuki - India is the ONLY market where Suzuki is doing well due to fact that it did the right thing in the market at the right time UNDER government control - whereas Fiat is globally respected as a great car designer - and owns the Ferrari brand.. can you really compare Fiat and Suzuki?

Well i am not sure about this steel quality of Fiat. But one thing whay i could say is that instead of 1.6 DOHC i think Fiat should have come up with 1.6 SOHC / 1.3 DOHC. No doubt with DOHC performance is enhanced. But the mileage seems to have taken a hit. Even DOHC with little less power (say 90bhp) would have been fine. I am sure with their expertise in making class setting engines this should be piece of cake for Fiat.

Also kerb weight of Palio 1.6 is 1060 whereas for Swift ZXI is 1010. So Palio is 50kgs heavier.

Another associated problem is that with 100bhp+ power and safety features absent (no ABS/Airbag option also) we cannot really term Palio 1.6 rates high on safety. This i feel is little like the case of Getz CRDI. No doubt the thrill is there. Currently 1.6 is 4.45 lacs ex-showrrom. With these safety features, climate control and other frills this should definitely become 5.5 lacs ex-showroom. So if you look at comparing ZXI spec matching 1.6 Sports, the ZXI wins hands down on mileage.

Ofcourse when it comes to build quality i think Palio scores over Swift handsomely. Also Palio scores when requirement is of good rear seating space and good boot space.

Bhushan



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