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#11 08-Feb, 2012 01:09 AM
Amar K
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Posted by tomy

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Regarding the music system, I strongly feel that Nippon is playing some game and Maruti is dancing to their tune (I suspect some hand in glove fishy thing). Nippon will get one USBless unit sold with every Zxi. When some customer is desperate, he will throw away that and by the same unit with USB. So more business for Nippon! Otherwise why should Maruti fit a music system without USB in their top model Ritz when the same one with USB is available (the cost difference will be hardly anything). As far as I understand even the Zxi manufacutred in 2012 comes without USB.

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Interesting and informative discussion.  However, IMO, thrashing Nippon is not correct.  I don't mean to single out you, Tomy, what you have written is a general perception of many users.  Nippon is manufacturing thousand of different ICE units of different price range.  It is up to Maruti to choose the cheapest one which they want to fit in their cars and models.  In a VFM car, one can't expect a top notch Nippon ICE Unit or better company ICE unit.  Can we blame Michelin tyre company for not providing tyres to Maruti cars, and Maruti is forced to put JK or MRF tyres?  Like wise, how can Maruti provide same paint quality in Maruti 800, which they do in Kizashi.  

Regarding Maruti dancing to the tune of other company, a prime example is FIAT diesel engine, which is used in all Maruti cars.  But Maruti is not ready to DEVELOP a diesel engine of its own due to lack of meaningful R&D, then what can we say - one petrol engine (K series) is all they have got.

I feel getting accessories from outside is not a problem, so many buy from outside.  But make sure the installer is reputed and gives written warranty.  Don't allow the installer to cut any wire.  MASS plays game with ignorant buyers to make extra money.  An example is given by Tomy, in connection with MGA (Nippon) parking sensor problem.

IMO, adding a powerful sub woofer with small engine car, may create electrical problems.




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#12 08-Feb, 2012 11:09 AM
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I don't think the comparisons are at par. If Michelin is not providing tyres, that means there is no agreement, and the tyres may be much costlier which cannot be accomodated in the price of the car. Regarding diesel engine, so many manufacturers are dependent on Fiat, not just Maruti

Nippon's case is different. They are supplying the music system to Maruti. It hardly costs them anything to add a USB port. Even a road side chinese music system worth Rs.1000 will come with USB port. Nippon is artificially keeping a product line without USB port. I am not talking about Nippon providing high end system at same cost. If they dont have USB port in their models supplied to the top end variant of a car, they are selling outdated junk to Maruti, and Maruti is happily taking it. By the way, if we go for a car variant without music system and then add it later, we will never get a proper steering mountetd controls on that, no matter how great the system is.

Tomy



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#13 13-Feb, 2012 12:34 AM
Amar K
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@Tomy

Very unusual way to observe and conclude.

Do you believe, Maruti-Suzuki SUPPLIED you Ritz rather than Kizashi, which has lot more features?

Kind regards.




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#14 13-Feb, 2012 12:56 PM
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Again you are comparing the wrong things.

Can we manufacture Kizashi at the price of Ritz? No.

Can we manufacture the USB model of HU at the price of the one without USB? Yes.

In electronics world, mass production is the key to everything. Today, if there are more units with USB than without USB, it is likely that the unit with USB costs less due to volume of prodution.

If Nippon had good intentions, they would have given USB option at the same price to Maruti.

Tomy



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#15 13-Feb, 2012 01:06 PM
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Again you are comparing the wrong things.

Can we manufacture Kizashi at the price of Ritz? No.

Can we manufacture the USB model of HU at the price of the one without USB? Yes.

In electronics world, mass production is the key to everything. Today, if there are more units with USB than without USB, it is likely that the unit with USB costs less due to volume of prodution.

If Nippon had good intentions, they would have given USB option at the same price to Maruti.

Please note that even the cheapest products from China (which we can get on roadside) used to come with USB long time back. If Nippon introduced it very late (due to which their USB models were expensive), it points to the fact that Nippon was lagging behind in technology and vision.

Tomy



Last Updated: 13-Feb, 2012 01:17 PM, by tomy
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#16 13-Feb, 2012 01:21 PM
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Its a fault of Maruti. Nippon is not cheating Maruti, Maruti is making fool of its customers

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#17 13-Feb, 2012 09:00 PM
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I fully agree. Nippon is definitely not cheating Maruti.

They are working together. That is why I earlier said hand in glove.

Tomy



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