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#1 17-Dec, 2011 12:33 PM
Pradep Thangaraj
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I am planning to buy a diesel hatchpack. I am confused with skoda fabia and fiat punto 90hp. I need a comfort handling, good FE, low maintenance. I will use it for 6 years. Suggest me which one to go?



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#2 17-Dec, 2011 03:10 PM
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Fiat 90hp is anytime better than the fabia as an overall package. While the fabia might score a little higher in terms on built quality, the punto will score in terms of performance. The 4 pot engine of the punto is also kind of more refined than the fabia. The fabia ia more heavier and boot space is also slightly better. However Skoda A.S.S.C. does not have a very good reputation all over as mentioned by many here and even the spares are comparatively expensive. Not that TASC is very good but I feel its comparatively better. Even the spares for punto are very competitive. My opinion is the 90hp




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#3 17-Dec, 2011 03:12 PM
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Posted by centaur

Fiat 90hp is anytime better than the fabia as an overall package. While the fabia might score a little higher in terms on built quality, the punto will score in terms of performance. The 4 pot engine of the punto is also kind of more refined than the fabia. The fabia ia more heavier and boot space is also slightly better. However Skoda A.S.S.C. does not have a very good reputation all over as mentioned by many here and even the spares are comparatively expensive. Not that TASC is very good but I feel its comparatively better. Even the spares for punto are very competitive. My opinion is the 90hp


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#4 17-Dec, 2011 03:40 PM
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between one more thing. A new facelifted punto is going to be launched next year. Do wait for it if you can




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#5 17-Dec, 2011 03:41 PM
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#6 22-Dec, 2011 11:37 PM
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i have seen both showrooms and how about i20? is i20 a better option than punto or what? i need a good handling & comfort car with good FE and low maintenance. which one to prefer?



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#7 22-Dec, 2011 11:41 PM
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Read this. 

When i was planning to buy a car, I was struck between choosing petrol or diesel. I did a calculation myself. 

    1) If I opt for diesel, and if you opt for car loan (with base payment remaining fixed), my car loan amount would increase by 1Lakh for a diesel car. If you apply a rate of interest of 11.5% for a 5 year car loan, the EMI increases by approx Rs 2600 (This is approx number, obviously it will be much higher) for that additional Rs 1Lakh. That means u will pay an additional Rs 2600 for 60 months. Assuming - diesel car gives 15kmpl in city (with AC), petrol give 12 kmpl in city (with AC), Diesel cost = Rs 44 per lite, Petrol = Rs 70 Per litre, total run for a month = 1250 KM (15000 KM per year). The running cost for a diesel car comes to Rs 3700 and for a petrol car Rs 7300. So with diesel car you spend 3700 + 2600 = 6300 every month and with petrol car you spend Rs 7300. So you save Rs 1000 every month with diesel car.

    2) However I missed to mention that you spend Rs 2600 additional as EMI on disel car while you save Rs 1000 with the same. That means Rs 1600 (2600 - 1000) is something you invest extra for diesel car every month. Lets assume, that you opted for petrol car and run the same number of KM as explained above. Thereby lets say i put this amount (Rs 1600) as recurring fixed deposit for 5 yrs with simple interest of 7%. At the 5th year u might get Rs 96000 (Rs 1600 * 6) and Rs 16000 (approx interest u obtain for 5 yrs. Not an accurate number) as interest (which is tax exempted). Thus ur saving bcos of recurring deposit at the end of 5th yr with petrol car is 96000 + 16000 = Rs 112000 which is Rs 1800 per month.

    3) Thus if u consider points 1 and 2, you save Rs 1800 per month with a petrol car. Let me add Rs 10000 as additional maintenance cost for 5 yrs when u own a diesel car and Rs 5000 more for 5 yrs of insurance with diesel car. At the end of 5 yrs, your savings with petrol car comes to Rs 123000 (1800 * 60 + 10000 + 5000).

    4) If you sell your car at the end of 5th yr, a diesel car might fetch Rs 50000 more (gracious assumption by the way) than a petrol. You will still see that u save more with a petrol car.

    5) If you perform the above calculation, with a car loan tenure of 5 yrs but u end up keeping the car for 6 yrs, u will see a diesel car brings u more savings than petrol. This means u breakeven and start earning profit with a diesel car if u keep it for 6 yrs or so. assuming that you increase the base payment amount by Rs 1 Lk when u opt for a diesel, u will see that Diesel car will easily bring lot of savings. Assuming you are not going to car loan at all and making complete investment from your pocket, u will see that diesel easily saves lot of money.

So in essence, what really boils down is that car loan. That additional Rs 1Lakk car loan for a deisel car plays a crucial role in determining ur profit at the end of 5th yr.

Of course I might have missed lot of factors.

A similar calculation assuming u r going to keep the car only for 3 yrs would give u different results.

So when I bought a car, i naturally had to go for a car loan and had decided that i will keep the car for 5 yrs. I kind of knew that i will not end up driving 15K KM per year. My calculation favored me to chose a petrol car. In a way after more than 1.5 yrs of buying the car, I think i made a fair decision. My car has run only 9000 KM in last 18 months.

Now if you have made a decision to go with petrol and ur budget is Rs 5.5 lakh or less, i will suggest u to go with i10. If you stretch ur budget by 1 lakh more, u can chose the car in following order - i20, new swift, Polo

Now if you have made a decision to go with diesel, choose the car in following order - Ford Figo, New swift.



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#8 22-Dec, 2011 11:51 PM
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between, this answer is not related to my question..



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#9 22-Dec, 2011 11:55 PM
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Looks like you are looking for a premium hatchback car in diesel segment.

After you checked my above post, i will assume you made up ur mind for diesel.

I own i20 Petrol, its a beautiful car no doubt.

i20 Diesel is no doubt a excellent car, more excellent features, safe.... but it will burn more money in your pocket. Diesel i20 is pricey when matched with its rivals.

Between Fabia and Punto, I would chose Fabia. Its a bigger than Punto and spacious. If you are going to own a car for 6 yrs, u also need the car to maintain the same engine, parts, paint quality. Fabia will give u that. I feel, if u compare a 6 yr old fabia and 6 yr old Punto u will definitely  see the difference and that point of time, u will feel Fabia was always a good choice.

If i hv to chose between fabia, Punto and i20 diesel versions and if i want to achieve a balance between the cash invested vs what I get, I would prefer Fabia.



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#10 23-Dec, 2011 12:08 AM
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how abt Ford Figo.. y r u not including it.. its a good VFM car..



Last Updated: 23-Dec, 2011 12:08 AM, by Karthik21
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