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#11 21-Mar, 2011 11:39 PM
Madan mohan
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Posted by sanshrinand

The figo and Micra have engines that have been a success in the fiesta and logan. Being less technology laden, you can consider both. The only doubt I have is about nissans after sales, of which I have less experience.

After sales is really an important issue to be considered while going for  a new car, well i think that these globally established automakers like ford, nissan, toyota or GM very well know that to capture the market share in india they need to compete wid the likes of Maruti in terms of after sales, so i dont think they can afford any loopholes in this particular aspect. I m also worried about the after sales of ford as i hv heard lot of ppl saying that maintaining a ford is like feeding an elephant, but times are changing and now these companies are well concerned about this matter, except that the german companies skoda and volkswagen will always be very bad for after sales and they are very arrogant,be it, buying of a new car or giving it to them for service, i have always heard pp giving -ve feedback of them.

your knowledge is certainly goin to help me in buying my new car thanks .




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#12 22-Mar, 2011 11:35 AM
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Most of them are not arrogant. It is just that either they are too lazy to complete work in detail or fleece you of your money by making small jobs turn into big ones. So you dont have to worry about the guys at the service station. The criteria you should consider is the nearest service station you have and their capablities. Usually, in my opinion in most cars like the nissan, ford, volkswagen etc, QC is quite high and there might be a few cases of nigative things happening, but that can happen to anyone at anytime. Moreover, as you are doubting, spare parts are quite high priced. But that applies to only complex parts. Usually you dont blow up your climate control system very soon unless its a very unlucky cause. Same is with the ABS modules and other important parts. Your usual maintenance will be limited to only wear and tear parts and consumables, which are inevitable. I can assure you that every paisa you pay as a premium compared to other brands, you will not regret. If maintaining a ford is said to be very expensive, the rear glass of my corolla costs 15k while the SX4's cost a mere 8k. But surely to some extent, the car lives upto its mark and hence, it will leave you satisified. So do not worry, buy a car you like. Thimgs will and should improve every now and then.




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#13 03-Apr, 2011 12:39 AM
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THANKS A LOT, all the info. is very Knowledgable.... have some questions, i have dropped figo cos of body roll and poor ground clearance and poor suspension, so i m thinking of punto 76bhp or swift or i20, please give me ur opinions about these cars in terms or Engine, a.s.s., power, . Any other important info. will b very helpful. @sankalp how can v compare micra's engine with that of above listed cars, i have heard that it has 3rd gen. crdi, which the most advanced and fuel efficient , is it so? and hows ur micra goin on n wat abt swift uve got any complaints about it? Thanks carwudies.


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#14 03-Apr, 2011 10:19 AM
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Suspension, ride quality wise I would suggest the punto. Equipment levels are also good. The i20 is also a good piece of engineering especially the diesel, though the 1.2 is a bit puny for the big car. The swift, on the other hand, is undergoing a major makeover and is supposed to be launched quite soon. If youu arent in a hurry, then you can wait for it and thhen decide.

Let me come to the niggles point of view. Many users report malfunctions in the car and warranty claims. If you plan to use the car everyday, then you might not be happy about it, as the car will spend some quality time in the service station

The i20, OTOH, is quite free from niggles except for the steering rattle problem, which I think was resolved with the BS4 versions. The Swift too, has many complaints of rattles. My diesel swift has run 92k kms till date and the petrol about 42k. Most of this has been in my native rural areas. But we havent had any such problems till date. I suspect the rattles arise due to improper installtion of accessories like ICE, power windows etc. Other than this, the cars are running new till date. The diesel has been pete'd to 90BHP and is quite peppy on the highways, where its mostly used! But still, the service advisor himself is advisingg us not to sell the car. 

Coming to my micra, its a petrol and the petrol engine is highly advanced. But the diesel engine is a direct lift from the Logan and the engine is quite backward in terms of technology. BOth engines are fuel efficient as per the reviews go. Ours is a petrol, and hasnt run much till date. Only one service is done and is returning a mileage of 15+KMPL on highways in fully spirited driving.




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#15 13-Apr, 2011 11:19 PM
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just forgot about his thread,

thanks




Patience is something you admire in the driver behind you and scorn in the one ahead. ~Mac McCleary
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#16 24-Jun, 2011 11:10 AM
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My profile is also very similar. I am old 800 user. want to switch to a diesel sedan type car below  10 L.

I am looking at two cars:

Maruti Suzuki SX4 ZDI LEATHER                  Fiat Linea T Jet Plus

displacement: 1248                                   1368

Power: 90@4000                                       114@5000

Torque:200@1750                                     207@2200

Q1) Which one is better in terms of mileage, maintainence cost and resale value?

Q2) Could you also see Swift dzire ZDI and compare with sx4 ZDI: Both have same cc displacement of 1248. Dzire has a power of only 75@4000 where SX4 has 90@4000: My presice question is to know which one of them will give more mileage, lesser maintenance cost and will give better resale value? (Or same cc; more power has what effect on mileage, resale value?)



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#17 24-Jun, 2011 04:25 PM
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@krishnan - there is one detail missing: the kerb weight. Placed side by side the linea engine looks somewhat better to me in terms of power but somewhat worse in terms of mileage. But what matters is the total weight the engines have to pull and this will decide whether they're both more or less the same or not.

Between dzire and sx4, dzire will (or should) give better mileage. For the same cc, more power = more fuel burnt. Resale is considered better for cars that have better mileage and lower maintenance. Between dzire & sx4, dzire probably has a *slight* edge.




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