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#11 11-Apr, 2007 09:24 AM
saurabh mehta
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Thanks Anurag and Carwale team for your prompt reply.

I want to clear one more doubt, diesel car require more maintenance than petrol car (ie cost incurred on every service). What will be your say if you compare all three (CNG, diesel and petrol).

CNG cars have less resale value than diesel whereas petrol car has much more value in terms of second hand market. Why is that so?

I am considering highly economical, low maintenance cost option as my daily running is about 70 kms. I own wagonR 2004 model (avg running cost in city Rs 2.60/per km), may be I would like to go for another car which fulfills my requirement. Kindly suggest

Your suggestions would be highly appreciated



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#12 11-Apr, 2007 08:44 PM
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Hi Saurabh,

As per your first query, and as i already told you there is no difference in maintaining a CNG car and a petrol car, consider them as same, maintaining a diesel car is higher. I think you know this thing but still I am telling this to you that the so called CNG cars that i told you about  like lancer, optra are actually petrol cars but a CNG kit comes factory fitted with them, i.e. you can drive those cars on petrol as well as on CNG, as you wish, the same engine(petrol engine) is working on both fuels. So there is no difference in maintaining them. The company might charge something extra for cleaning up of CNG injecting components. Thats it.

CNG cars(not the ones in which CNG kit comes factory fitted) might have lesser resale value due to the fact that a major alteration has been done in the car, this is the case(even though one spends a lot of money to fit them) and in smaller cars the luggage space in the rear is gone after fitting a CNG cylinder in it. Diesel cars has less re-sale value due to higher maintenance cost afterwards and it is always presumed that the Diesel engine is more worn out than the petrol. 

Please tell your budget, i'll give recommendations as per that.



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#13 12-Apr, 2007 09:42 AM
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I believe that there will not be any significant amount charged for servicing a factory fitted CNG optra as compared with petrol optra (say for instance Chevy Optra).

Anyway, what do you suggest if I will consider Swift diesel (CRDi) for its economy, performance and reliability (as maruti known for). I took the test ride and am pretty much satisfied with the car.

Well, I can go for any segment car, budget is not a problem but my main concern is to cut down the fuel expense as low as possible (also includes overall maintenance cost)....complete peace of mind for atleast 4 yrs as I may go for extended warranty.



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#14 12-Apr, 2007 05:39 PM
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pls review my previous comments posted today.

Moreover, CNG optra does not come as factory fitted as I have confirmed it with them, its only a dealer fitted kit with 3 yrs warranty.

Anurag, are you an auto expert from a carwale team. Waiting for your response and valuable suggestions

thanks a ton!



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#15 13-Apr, 2007 04:49 PM
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Hi,

I would like to say that both CNG and LPG does not have any effect on the engine. Banwari said it correctly that after combustion, nothing remains as unburned fuel. So your engine life is increased.
Let you decision of placing CNG or LPG be solely governed by the availability in your area. You might find some difficulty in finding the filling stations (in some places). So go for any of the option, just check that the filling pump is  near by

Cheers!

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#16 13-Apr, 2007 08:27 PM
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Hi Saurabh,

Thanks for telling me about the Optra CNG, the dealer fitment is also as good as factory fitted as it comes with warranty. Ok now let us move ahead.

Even i was going to suggest you to go for a diesel car thats why i asked for your requirements. Swift diesel is definately a great car to buy. Maruti being  the most reliable in India, no issues with it, will surely bring down your fuel expenses. Moreover, now you have driven it and liked it, i think theres nothing like it. But since you also said that budget is not the problem and you can buy a higher segment car also, and also if you do not dislike Hyundai, please give a serious thought to the Verna. Its a great car too and in all terms, better than the Swift. Maintenance cost is also not that high, very good fuel economy. But then swift is a different segment car and we actually cannot compare the two. I am giving Verna as another option and i strongly recommend you to test drive it. You will definately feel the difference. The Verna CRDI is a bit over priced but i feel every bit of technology given to its engine is worth that price. Read the following also  http://www.carwale.com/MyCarwale/Forums/ViewThread-813.html

And yes you can say that i am a part of Carwale team seeing my contribution but that is totally unofficial. I am here to help others and sharing my knowledge with all. Hope my contribution is of help to others. Carwale is a great place and helps many. Afterall, cars are very important part of persons life as one is spending a big amount of money in buying them. Carwale and Mr. Sharma is doing a great job for all those people, may they prosper to great heights.



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#17 14-Apr, 2007 08:24 AM
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Thanks Anurag for your suggestions and really appreciate u for your contribution.

Well, wat about the mileage of Verna CRDi, is it better than swift diesel (mileage around 20-22 kms/ltr in city)??
Should I wait for another couple of months as 4 new cars are in the pipeline to be launched in Apr-May?




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#18 14-Apr, 2007 11:29 AM
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According to the road test of both the cars, Verna gives 12.3kpl in city and 16.8kpl on highway with AC on while the swift gives 12.6 kpl in city and 18.4 kpl on highway. Source: Autocar magazine. These figures are as per a test, you can generate even more efficiency from the Swift, it depends upon the driving style.

The new Baleno is expected to launch in May but can't say whether the diesel version will be out then only or after a few months.  

 



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#19 16-Apr, 2007 04:50 PM
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exactly .. it depends on the driving style and conditions.....

for eg... if One says "City Drive"...it can be completely misleading..... a BPO employees car/bike would give him alot more mileage than a regular 9 am office goer !!.....

 

And,i Don't think there's any news about the Diesel Baleno as yet.......  So i am guessing its gonna Petrol only...(atleast at the time of release.)



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#20 24-Apr, 2007 05:10 PM
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hi,

I have one Ford Mondeo 2.0 Ghia Duratec, 2002 model and was searching for a CNG option.  I tried many dealers but had a really terrible experience, no one knows about the type of engine which would be best supportive for CNG.  My experience to all this survey concluded me to one thing.....the advancer settings. Both CNG and petrol require different timing advances(CNG advancer should move fast than petrol to burn complete fuel, in absence of which knocking, missing etc would take place).

Please advice/suggest me.  I am really confused about this.  Is CNG really a fuel for my car(Ford Mondeo 2.0 Ghia Duratec).

kapil

 



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