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#11 17-Nov, 2010 01:49 PM
Rohit B.D.
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Posted by sanshrinand
Secondly regarding rohits opinion, K&N filter does improve the performance of the engine but not by the Max. Power or torque. It Makes the engine revv freely. And the effects of a clogged air filter is less on this filter.
Well, its not an improvment in performance - just that the engine is now getting relatively a bit more air for the same amount of the accelerator push, causing it to respond better to the throttle. That said, the ECU will adjust fuelling to get to the RPM dictated by the throttle's position whilst also trying to keep the fuel mix at nominal level. In all the engine will operate closer to specification, that's all.

The same can be replicated by simply changing the stock filter with a new OEM filter. With free-flow filters of the same size as OEM, all we're doing is allowing less obstruction (and resulting less filtering) to air.

If you really want good filtering and less obstruction its better to go for a larger air filter OF THE SAME filtering mesh size as the original stock one - fitting it in is a different matter, though - and in Manjunath's case the conical filter probably does have a greater surface area to let in more air.




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#12 18-Nov, 2010 08:58 AM
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Hey guys, yday visited a local mechanic and checked whether the position of the air filter can be changed. Then got to know that it would be a time consuming job. Hence, asked him to replace the conical filter with the regular filter (K&N stock filter) which i was using before. Job was done in less than 10 mins. Now relieved, tension free Smile 



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#13 18-Nov, 2010 11:26 AM
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Posted by rohit.b.d.
Well, its not an improvment in performance - just that the engine is now getting relatively a bit more air for the same amount of the accelerator push, causing it to respond better to the throttle.

Well, that is what I, and almost everybody calls performance improvement, Rohit! Tongue out but this is just to needle you, Rohit, before I say K&N are not really all that better than the stock filter (or no filter at all), for flow improvement. (check the bob the oil guy link below)

Posted by rohit.b.d.

The same can be replicated by simply changing the stock filter with a new OEM filter. With free-flow filters of the same size as OEM, all we're doing is allowing less obstruction (and resulting less filtering) to air.

If you really want good filtering and less obstruction its better to go for a larger air filter OF THE SAME filtering mesh size as the original stock one - fitting it in is a different matter, though - and in Manjunath's case the conical filter probably does have a greater surface area to let in more air.

OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer = STOCK.

Rohit's second paragraph quoted above makes sense, from theoretical point of view.

However, overall, I don't recommend K&N filters to anyone, because of the scathing reviews from filter performance analysis found online on the internet. Bob the oil guy literally tears K&N filters apart, accusing them of low FILTERING performance, with solid proof. Either ways, the flow improvements are nothing to crow about, and one is better off without the fancypants filters and the associated expenses.

For best filtering results and longevity of the engine, better stick to the filter the car came with.



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#14 18-Nov, 2010 11:50 AM
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That said, the ECU will adjust fuelling to get to the RPM dictated by the throttle's position whilst also trying to keep the fuel mix at nominal level. In all the engine will operate closer to specification, that's all.

 Krishna, my statement should be read with the above - what I'm trying to say is "Operate closer to specs" - which technically isn't an improvement!! But of course we're taking layman's understanding here...sheesh, why do I even argue!!!?? Anyways...bottom line is stick to OEM (=stock)!!!




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#15 04-Dec, 2010 11:24 AM
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Posted by Manjunath.R

Hi Auto gurus,

Am using K&N performance filter in my Alto. Yday when i opened the Bonet to do regular check up, i was little surprised when i observed the air filter. Its a conical shaped filter and at the bottom i noitced that some portion of it (say @2 cms or so) had become very soft (like melting). It had become powder type. The surface of the air filter is mesh type. To be specific, i observed a portion (@2cms or so at the bottom) of ths mesh like surface melting.

Can any one advice?

The k&n giving any responce to you like ,acclelaration or milage?




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