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#101 21-Nov, 2009 02:06 PM
Praveen Tyagi
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If some one is satisfied then he will praise about the car and will even overlook the matter where all negative about the car is mentioned in detailed.

People here say that maruti maintainance is cheap which I dont think that is true.  Take the car to MAS and they will bill you for even a small work and if there are some issues and in any case some other work is required to be done then again you will have to pay for it.

Maruti takes people for ride as they think that they are No.1 so they are the best.

See the new SX4 no improvement its same as the old SX4. Same jerks and body roll still persists in new SX4.

By seeing SX4 there is no feeling that OH this is the car I want desperately.



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#102 21-Nov, 2009 05:17 PM
Dr Abhijeet Yadav Yadav
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I didnt expect anybody to come after 3 months of ownership to sing a song about the goodness of SX4.

You taking me on the wrong track.

I definately dont sideline the Flaws,read my posts in detail not to come to a conclusion.

There are different ways of looking at things.

If shekhar decides at a later date to go for CITY i would still request him to come up with a review,good or bad that still wont make a difference to anyone personly but the community at large.

Every one is free to elaborate and anyone can write whatever he feels is justice to his own ideas,concepts and experience.

No one is here to judge or to decide or to stand out in this discussion about whos the best.

Pinning down a thread from accross the globe for whats wrong with something wont solve a purpose unless discussed here on this forum by the members who own it.

If thats the case then every thread on our forum might have been discussed already there,why not hijack those threads for ease and comfort.

We dont know whats the criteria or the basis and genunity on other forums.[just to be safer side]

There might be hundreds of threads singing in accordance with the idea that SX4 being good and without a snag.

Why would it matter here?

We can only post what we experience not what others feel!

Having said that i think i understand how seriously someone means when he says SX4[general] Plastic is cheap,Dezire and SX4 are the same league of cars![How can someone not differentiate between 1300 cc and 1600cc?Is that so marginal? Gosh],There is serious power lag,gear shift is extra stiff and stuff.

There is a way of putting things accross,i cant judge you nor can anyone judge me.

And i still maintain the posts previously were exaggerated to the extent it made me feel i own a Wagon R and not SX4.

So why to post in a manner which gives a wrong idea about a particular Car!

What impact it will have on others [perspective buyers,confused janta]can be very well understood.




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#103 21-Nov, 2009 05:24 PM
Ameet Ahluwalia
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Friends, lets not get personal

A forum is to experess a person's likes or dislikes

please lets be with the topic however i would like to add a point to what Amit said

when it comes to "Driving pleasue" honda a far ahead of SX4

My brotherinlaw own both SX4 (1 yr old) and City (4 yrs old) and he is simply in love with the city

surely there is no comparison when it comes to driving pleasue and comfort

AND maruti is surely no more a NO MAINTAINANCE CAR

these people charege you for anything and everything and the service they give you is pathetic

i am not and cant be bais coz i dont own a honda yet but everybody recommend honda when you are on a 8 lakh+ racket



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#104 21-Nov, 2009 06:11 PM
Rajiv Parashar
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Well, Serious discussion is going on here.

Friends, every car is good and the car which I feel is the best for me may not be good for someone else. As far as my opinion is concern, you can say mindset or watever it is, I will always pick a honda city if choice is Petrol Car & Options are Honda City or SX4. Brand image of City is better, other thing which is very important for me... Looks, I will rate Honda City higher here again, Refinement of engine is other advantage, Most important part for me (for my kind of usage-High usage) Mileage and Honda City is clear winner here too with great FE, Last but not least, Resale Value.... Again I will rate a City higher with Great resale value too.

As far as features are concern, Basic features I need, Power windows & defogger. Other featuers are handy but not that important as I can switch off the a.c. when I feel its chilling. Space is my other necessity and feel is most important. Alloys are available in range of 12k to 16k, others accessories are available in out market at cheap prices.

Maintenance: Least important part for me because I really dont think Maruti is cheapest, and if there is some difference, its negligible small amount (keeping in mind class & budget of car someone is going to buy- 8+ lacs segment). These days every car maker is trying to keep the parts prices as cheap as possible but really maintenance should not be deciding factor as how much you will spend extra in 3 to 5 years? 30k? At the time of buying any car if I am recommending someone to stretch budget and spend 50k more for a better car than why I am thinking about maintenance which definitely is not that much?

If someone is saying Ford is high on maintenance (No detail of Honda city as I dont own one) I can provide data of Ford Fiesta TDCi service detail and compare it with any car.

30k Service (most expensive): 3400/-, 40k service:2211/-, 50k service:2000/-

I am sharing here OT data just because Maintenance of even a Ford car (really very poor past image) is not high these days then why putting on so much weight to maintenance?

Test Drive the Car, Looks, Interiors, Feature & Space. Check out Mileage & Resale value (if u want to keep the car for more than 5years, Resale is not that important part) and decide as per your liking. Least important part? Maintenance!!!

Cheers




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#105 22-Nov, 2009 12:01 PM
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Rajiv, the maintainence cost part is a great post. We have heard about Ford's being expensive to maintain but your expenses are a revelation. In comparision, I spent almost Rs.9,500 for my SX4 40K service. The invoice is posted by me in another thread on this forum.

It's amazing how perceptions stick.



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#106 23-Nov, 2009 12:42 AM
Dr Abhijeet Yadav Yadav
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And how does it make a difference in Vehicles performance!

Innocent




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#107 25-Nov, 2009 10:47 AM
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The servicing rates being discussed here are including  the cost of spares and oils in case of SX 4 and only for labour in case of Ford.The spares of Ford are still costing more than Hyundai which in turn are higher than Maruti.A complete comparison keeps appearing in Autocar magazine and the last one came around 4 months back.



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#108 25-Nov, 2009 11:14 AM
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Thanks Nipun.I wish you could just post the Copy of that comparison for good.Innocent




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#109 26-Nov, 2009 04:32 PM
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Guys this is a forum. Please do not stick on to your ideas and thoughts and also please give way to all kinds of opinions. Each car, from a nano to a bentley has its own ups and downs. Some may consider SX4 for its ups and disregard the city for its downs. But another group think vice versa.

Each car has its own prescence and its own purpose. Thats the sole aim of competition. If the SX4 was built to similiar perfection as the city, people would surely have been charged the same amount of money that honda charges and both cars would be similiar. In that case due to increase in quality some of the equipments would have to be removed in the case of SX4 so as to match up with the pricing of the city.

 I myself own a city(ANHC) and my dad an SX4 but we consider the two cars being totally different as the usage conditions of these two are also different. I cannot surely race my city over a pothole or a breaker as fast as i can clear an SX4. That makes the different.

WRT maintenance I really bet that HONDAS are expensive when compared to maruti and the service quality is always being improved by maruti. Only thing is you should consider choosing the workshop before leaving your car there as diff MASS have their own standards and technical feasiblity.

This is a general discussion so henceforth do not target a specific car, brand or model.

Please maintain the serenity of a forum and do not make it a battleground 




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#110 26-Nov, 2009 04:48 PM
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Posted by Amit

Rajiv, the maintainence cost part is a great post. We have heard about Ford's being expensive to maintain but your expenses are a revelation. In comparision, I spent almost Rs.9,500 for my SX4 40K service. The invoice is posted by me in another thread on this forum.

It's amazing how perceptions stick.

Actually, Maruti has a policy of replacing many parts and consumables @ 40k. As far as i ve seen, the same service for the OMNI itself cost 6k as almost all the consumables,  like gear box and engine oil, sparks and many more things were replaced. I feel same is done in the case of SX4 also as mine has not even done 6000 kms so i dont know whats waiting there!

This is a nice initiative taken by Maruti and is done to ensure the vehicle is in good condition. But IF you are money concious and risk your vehicle's reliablity, you can cut down replacements which are not needed at that instance.




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