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#1 28-Oct, 2009 02:58 AM
Dr Abhijeet Yadav Yadav
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Nothing wrong in CNG shift rather if properly done is a boon.

I took 9 months [from the time of purchase] to think about a possibility of CNG conversion.

I am not the kind who thinks about saving and all but when i left the temporary job i had to hunt for an alternative fuel to suit my pocket.

[without a compromise on my driving Habits]Tongue out

And being very frank i was clean boweled by the savings i have done in these two months.

Mind boggling 5 Rs to a km.

And i have completed ,2000KMS already=10,000 rupees.

Thats a huge sum of money.

Now i dont think twice before entering a fuel pump checking for ready cash of 1000 or something to get the petrol filled which would last just a week,instead i do once in three days and 100-150 rupees refill for a cng tank full-that lasts 140-150 kms on this 1600 cc car[remember i had full tanked].

I think companies should come up with more CNG vehicles keeping apart their petrol RnD.

I would suggest you to do one more investment for looking forward to cng conversion with eyes closed,all your myths will vanish in no time once you have done a CNG conversion.

InnocentThere is no alternative to the peace of mind every time you hit a pump for a refill.Innocent

Keeping aside the fact that it would take over 6 months to recover your money[taking it to be 30k-40k for conversion with an avg of 40 km per day drive],

In practicality you would realise your happiness everyday when you would be more than pleased for a meagre amount of 150 rupees[refill] that gives you 180 kms of run time.[Who carries a pocket full of currencies everyday,and dont mind the other expenses which are necessory and the emergencies that arise without a warning]

Now i think=why did i wait for nine months,with ODO touching 17000kms,[a total of 76500 Rupees worth of petrol spent already by the time i realised a need of Fuel alternative.]

But then i think you need to spend some time with petrol as well,to know your vehicle specialy when its new,so that you can differentiate a strange sound that might or might not be due to CNG conversion.




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Last Updated: 28-Oct, 2009 03:03 AM, by Dr.Abyshines
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#2 28-Oct, 2009 08:21 AM
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Posted by Dr.Abyshines

But then i think you need to spend some time with petrol as well,to know your vehicle specialy when its new,so that you can differentiate a strange sound that might or might not be due to CNG conversion.

Retrofitment would void the warranty.  However, waiting for warranty to expire (2 or more years) may not be feasible for those who have substantial run/usage.  Therefore, such people generally get the retrofitment done after 6-9 months.  It not only helps them know their vehicle, as pointed out by Abyshines, but is also a sufficiently good enough time for any manufacturing defect etc. to surface (warranty point of view).  Besides, CNG Kit / Retrofitment comes with warranty - so the timing etc. is fine.

Speaking in general... the running cost roughly works out to 1/3rd of petrol.  Performance cannot match with that of petrol - but is not an issue in normal driving conditions & style - a matter of getting used to it.




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#3 28-Oct, 2009 08:37 AM
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Pankaj i agree that performance cannot match 100% to Petrol.

Probably i would love to come there[National meet ] with my vehicle[if i manage to give some excuse at home,lols],so as to let others grade the performance with CNG.

I think some things are better felt than explained.

I am certain that my Conversion is providing enough torque and power when needed[certainly not to the extent of Petrol,but definately not below 8/10 compared to petrol.]

I dont know,others might have different experience with diff vehicles,but certainly what i am trying to say is SX4 compatibility might be better owing to 4 cylinder and 1600 cc.

Others do post your experience.




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#4 28-Oct, 2009 09:02 AM
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CNG retrofitment is a success - also with SX4.  As I personally know, it's very popular in Surat/Gujarat - CNG in particular.  One of my co-brothers (Surat) has SX4 with CNG since retrofitted onto it & is very happy with the performance/results (I have driven his car on Petrol & CNG both - significantly).




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#5 28-Oct, 2009 10:37 AM
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Posted by Dr.Abyshines

I am certain that my Conversion is providing enough torque and power when needed[certainly not to the extent of Petrol,but definately not below 8/10 compared to petrol.]

Sorry I missed to append this point above...

True, you have rightly rated as 8/10.  It is always said/observed (all cars) that power/performance loss is approximately to the extent of 20-25%.  But as discussed above, it doesn't matter much in normal driving conditions/style.  The power loss is felt more in smaller cars - obviously - though the loss (%) is same.




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#6 28-Oct, 2009 12:29 PM
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Hmmm,You are rightly a MOD.Innocent




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#7 28-Oct, 2009 02:06 PM
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Aby. I agree every bit with you. As far as CNG is concerend i am sure you save money.

There is NO good feeling better then holding your car keys in your hand without worring about the fuel cost.

I personaly might not go for CNG but always tempted to go for one. might do it some day.but have always been confused about LPGInnocent. I personally feel rahter to buy Diesel car then fitting LPG, sorry this is off the topic but felt like covering it here.




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#8 28-Oct, 2009 02:14 PM
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Hi guys,

i heard that cng/lpg may cause blast.. although its posibility and case that i have read or heard from friends are very less.. but still i would like to know is it possible .. that gas can cause blast in cars.. !!!!

secondly i would also like to know which is better cng petrol car or diesel car.. and why..

note: my intention is not to scar anyone.. but i want to know the fact, by saying that gas car can blast as.. in that way.. our cooking gas bottle also can blast

thanks.



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#9 28-Oct, 2009 02:43 PM
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Hi,

I had used LPG in my previous Car ,Wagon-R , There is ONLY about 20% saving in Fuel cost . But there is drastic reduction in Performance. It took almost 2years  20000 KM) to recover the expenses .

(1) You feel very much underpowered we you try to Overtake in Highways, I used to switch to Petrol during that time.

 (2)In normal ramp( like Flyover) we need to switch off the AC to get the car  moving  , even in 1st /2nd gear ,

(3)Whenever we give vehicle for servicing The Regular service guy do something or other to this LPG kit, Then we should re-tune/check the LPG section at the other service center, where we had fitted the LPG

(4) You had changed something from the Original , so the re-sale value will be less, Though you had added the LPG kit .




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#10 28-Oct, 2009 03:30 PM
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@ Dr. Abhyshines - CNG kit fitted with Advancer behaves 90% like petrol. I have CNG 14kg cylinder in my Accent 1.5 and must say CNG is a boon when we see 1000s of rupee is saved every coming month. We can not however rule out the other set of problems which comes along with it like time taken at CNG station and risk of using the gas. We must be extra carefull with maintenance which gas kits require. Ater reading your post i do have some set of questions : How come your Car runs 180 kms in single filling? How come your cylinder gets full in just Rs 100-150? CNG is all about pressure, the more the pressure - the more the gas inside. How much presure do you get? Do you have any Advancer / Lambda fitted ? 

Would like to make clear, my Accent runs anything from 140-145 Kms in single CNG fill which costs me something 180-185 Rs with mixed A/c use at pressure of 190-200 which reflects on pressure metre and I have an advancer fitted.



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