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#81 26-Nov, 2009 05:41 PM
Amit Raisinghani
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Posted by Dr.Abyshines

See there is a fine difference between pure luxury like in Accord and Sonata's.

You definately dont expect it to be the same in a Car of 8 lakhs.

Given that its a 1.6 litre vvt engine in 8 lakhs with a 16 inch wheels with wide tyres and 190mm ground clearance is something no one can ignore.Innocent

The comparision was not with Accord but with City. I don't understand why we are ever ready to compromise , forgive and defend Maruti for things lacking in their cars. Besides, you say we cannot ignore VVT engine , ground clearence etc. Does that mean it's okay if rattles come up because after all Maruti is compensating by giving us VVT, 16" wheels and ground clearance? Why is this largesse not shown to other manufacturer's then? Why do we focus on inferior plastics quality completely ignoring features like Blue&ME, MY car features, 15K service intervals? Why the hypocrisy?



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#82 26-Nov, 2009 06:04 PM
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Posted by Amit

The comparision was not with Accord but with City. I don't understand why we are ever ready to compromise , forgive and defend Maruti for things lacking in their cars. Besides, you say we cannot ignore VVT engine , ground clearence etc. Does that mean it's okay if rattles come up because after all Maruti is compensating by giving us VVT, 16" wheels and ground clearance? Why is this largesse not shown to other manufacturer's then? Why do we focus on inferior plastics quality completely ignoring features like Blue&ME, MY car features, 15K service intervals? Why the hypocrisy?

Ah what a comment?

Each manufacturer has their own personal preferences on what is to be given to customers and at what cost.

So in this case maruti is offering sheer practicality and not add ons that make the whole car complicated to use. If you are really a gadget geek then you can opt to buy a car that suits your interests and are advised not to spoil the ethics of the forum. Justify the features of your car, do not spoil the reputation of others. This is my sincere advise




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#83 26-Nov, 2009 06:55 PM
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Posted by Amit

The comparision was not with Accord but with City. I don't understand why we are ever ready to compromise , forgive and defend Maruti for things lacking in their cars. Besides, you say we cannot ignore VVT engine , ground clearence etc. Does that mean it's okay if rattles come up because after all Maruti is compensating by giving us VVT, 16" wheels and ground clearance? Why is this largesse not shown to other manufacturer's then? Why do we focus on inferior plastics quality completely ignoring features like Blue&ME, MY car features, 15K service intervals? Why the hypocrisy?

Absolutely wrong perception and i defend Sankalp for what he has said,besides the point you said about the Rattle!

Dude show me a single SX4 with Rattle!

Thats why i said you are exaggerating!

Even TATA Manza is offering Bluetooth connectivity!

How useful is that?

System finds it hard to connect to the bluetooth enabled latest handsets that are in the market?

Bluetooth is not a reason enough for any manufacturer to compel buyers to buy their vehicle.

Exactly what i meant.

Some manufacturers know what people demand,Ignoring ground clearance issue and to put all sorts of equipment not necessory for utility is something i think justifies my favour for SX4.

I didnt say its an absolute sheer beauty and beast combination but for a Car priced 8 lakhs[on road] and with overall usefulness is something i cant stop appreciating.

Sorry if i disagree with you,Remember i cant change your views,nor can anyone mine.

Besides i am not endorsing any brand but in total, i know what car i have and to what degree i can digest comments or compliments about the same.




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#84 26-Nov, 2009 07:49 PM
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To give a short example, maybe your dealer offers you a skirt for your car which you think is a good option but maybe when you drive it over a hump, if it takes a toss then do you consider it a boon or a bane?




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#85 26-Nov, 2009 08:04 PM
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TO an extent& in a couple of points, I would say that the Accent is better than an SX4.But then you really can't compare aa 5.5 ks car 7 a 8 Lakhs car, can you?

All I am saying is that the plastics and build quality of maruti cars compared cars of other makers e.g Hyundai/Honda in the same segment is not comparable. I own a i20 and I can confidently say the i20 is much well built & it feels much better inside than a Swift, though the Swift beats the i20 hands down in the performance stakes. Similarly a Verna's ride is much better than a SX4. One complaint that a SX4 owner friend is tha the ride quality in the rear of SX4 is bad(on bad roads), again when compared to a Verna or a City. I am not lambasting Maruti , but just saying that compared to its competitors, Maruti's plastics & build quality are simply not as good as its competitors.

Rattles in SX4,are you kidding? I know atleast two guys who have rattle problems in thier SX4.Like the Swift, its a driver's car, but is being  driver's vehicle good enough and is it wise to ignore other issues? I don't think so. Everytime time, I went to the service station with my Swift, I had a rattling issue

If anyone wants to take it personally, that's their problem. May be the "period" comment was a bit over the top, and I apologize for that.

I have been participating in other non-car related forums long enough to know that when people start taking things personally, things get ugly. But in my short stay here at this forum, I have seen people simply not ready to accept bad points about their super-cars and instead saying other cars in the same segment have the same problems and then masking it with the point that x brand is so popular, people are not blind to buy it blah blah blah.This is a forum where people should respect other opinions, and discuss issues, not take things personally!!!! 




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#86 26-Nov, 2009 08:08 PM
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Yes you are right but I havent had any sort of rattling issues with my car. I dont agree that accent is a better car as it obviously an entry level sedan. Anyways i do agree that the i20 is betterthan the swift as these two are not the right cars for a comparision what you are making. i20 is surely a state of the art car. Please throw light on where rattling and when rattling so that i can clarify your queries. IMO except for build issues, marutis are good enough when compared to other cars...




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#87 26-Nov, 2009 08:13 PM
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Posted by Sankalp

Ah what a comment?

Each manufacturer has their own personal preferences on what is to be given to customers and at what cost.

So in this case maruti is offering sheer practicality and not add ons that make the whole car complicated to use. If you are really a gadget geek then you can opt to buy a car that suits your interests and are advised not to spoil the ethics of the forum. Justify the features of your car, do not spoil the reputation of others. This is my sincere advise

see, this exactly my point. rather than discussing the issue in a civilised manner, people start taking things personally. For crying out loud, this is a forum, not the real world, where people think of one-upmanship




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#88 26-Nov, 2009 08:15 PM
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Welll even i was having the same thing in mind. I wanted to make the person realise his comment so hence so. It is not personal and i myself do not like being personal in these things.




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#89 26-Nov, 2009 08:21 PM
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Posted by Sankalp

Yes you are right but I havent had any sort of rattling issues with my car. I dont agree that accent is a better car as it obviously an entry level sedan. Anyways i do agree that the i20 is betterthan the swift as these two are not the right cars for a comparision what you are making. i20 is surely a state of the art car. Please throw light on where rattling and when rattling so that i can clarify your queries. IMO except for build issues, marutis are good enough when compared to other cars...

i said, accent is better ina couple of points, not the whole package, the hydraulioc steering, high speed stability, braking(inspite of lacking ABS) are somethings tha tcoem to my mind. I hardly had any rattliong issue in my old Accent,

well, the top models of i20, swift(petrol) are in the same price range.....comparisions would be natural.

rattling in door panels, hatch(that thing would never open fully in one go), rear suspension.

two months in my i20..no rattling issues till now.

when build quality is different, obviously maruti cars would be cheaper(compared to similar models by other manufacturers with same or better features). when one has to pay an extra  20-30K for its nearest rival,  lot of people would go for the better built car. i do understand in india, people prefer cheap & low maintainence cars, but there are others who prefer well built cars as well.

i know many people who previously owned a Swift and now bought a hatchback/sedan of other competitors and not maruti. why? any guesses?




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#90 26-Nov, 2009 08:27 PM
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Dude its just normal. Well AFA rattling is concerned i dont experience any so cant comment
Usually Maruti doesn have a trendy image as with honda, hyundai etc and hence trendy people go for better trends. The Swift is trendy though its not good on build quality. AFA i ve seen most swifts are brought by people who like to modify their car so it whoely depends upon your preferences onto which field you want to spend the buck, whether to better brand name or that feeling of ultimateness in modifying your car. So cant give out any more comments as the topic is being deviated




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