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#11 23-Oct, 2009 04:36 PM
Krishna
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Posted by Binoy Thomas
Dont understand why five tyres are being upgraded in the first place?

Wont just changing four tyres be sufficient?

Binoy, ok what about one of the tyres springing a leak, and has to be replaced by the spare, and then the upgraded tyre needs to sit in the spare wheel well... This scenario does not require 5 upgraded wheels, only 4.



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#12 23-Oct, 2009 04:44 PM
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OT

Aby please dont take me in the wrong sense, am sure sure you must have come across the warnings(either in other members posts or edited in one of your posts that you might have overlooked).

All members are expected to go through the first thread in the first section of the forum(look here) and to abide by the same. The reference to the ban was given as a reference and not imply anything towards you.

Bottom line is just avoid the' ...' and we are game.



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#13 23-Oct, 2009 04:48 PM
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Krishna dont know how frequent a tubeless tyre will spring a leak that demands a replacement at the roadside, most if not all are detected usually at a tyre shop.

But then again what you suggest is possible, but i guess there wont be much of a problem here as the difference in diameter of the uprated tyre would be less than 1%(and then again the errant tyre will sure fit the boot for the short ride to the tyre shop)



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#14 24-Oct, 2009 12:36 AM
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Binoy i understand your point,Thank you for notifying.

Your gesture is much appreciated and would stand as an example to others-MODS




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#15 24-Oct, 2009 12:41 AM
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I would like to point out here,once i had been to the Workshop/bodyshop for some claim,

I  saw an sx4 Zxi having a flat tyre came for some claim purpose.

It was the bent rim that made the guys to put a vxi rim for the time being for towing it to the top floor.

To my surprise it became a horror show to me[since owning one].

The car was going in different direction owing to diameter mismatch,and bang withing few mins the steering mount broke in pieces.[i guess thats what they call the point of attachment of the Steer wheel rod to the front axleInnocent]

Will it be a problem with the solution you mentioned for not having an extra [non oem] alloy wheel in spare?




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#16 24-Oct, 2009 06:58 AM
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Aby it surely is a cause for concern, running different size wheels on the car is an absolute no no and should not be done.

Will make two observations:

1) the SX4 with the bend rim-must have suffered a massive hit to the tyre/steering and suspension(to have been dented) and that might have contributed to the steering rack failure.

2)we must have all experienced punctures on our cars which had tubed tyres, here again a tyre which is fast getting deflated the wheel diameter also changes from say 17 inches(on a car with 14 inch wheels) to about 14 inches(when fully deflated). Even this massive change in wheel size(at least personally) did not cause steering column failure by the time the puncture is detected(usually 3-5km-again a personal view point).

Also if am not mistaken the Nascar cars run different wheel sizes on the left and right sides(as they are running in a single direction in the drome) to enable better steering and grip.(this am not completely sure of but stating from an ageing memory)!



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#17 24-Oct, 2009 09:29 AM
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I think you are right.Innocent




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#18 26-Oct, 2009 12:29 AM
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ok i am completely confused now!

so r u ppl suggesting that i dont get an upgraded spare tyre coz it isn't required? please stick to a layman's explanation becoz i dint quite understand.

see the logic i am sticking to, is simple (at least i think so)! If i get a flat tyre, i need to change it and for that i need to have a spare tyre and becoz all my four tyres are upgraded, my spare too has to be upgraded so that when i change the flat one to the extra one, i dont face any complications due to tyre mismatches on either side of my vehicle.

PS- i too will avoid "..." such usages in the future and apologize for any inconvenience caused.



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#19 26-Oct, 2009 12:39 AM
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Emi ,go for a 5 upgrade if you are going.else stick to present tyres.

I dont think i will ever have a trouble with the fifth spare in the boot.

Usually tubeless tyres dont go full flat in one go but taking into account the risks involved with four tyres upgrade,i  would definately prefer 5 tyres.

Tubeless tyres loose pressure slowly even in case of a puncture.

But what if car is parked for a longer time and you realise you dont have enough pressure to visit the  nearest repair shop and that too in odd time?

But these things can be easily looked into once you go ahead with an upgrade by simply choosing the right tyre size[which itself is a mammoth task,considering the kind of time it is taking me for an upgrade] and the alloy size.

One way is to seek help from a friend with  a similar car or an upgrade and trying to see whether that tyre fits your boot,if yes then go ahead or else do some alterations to your size.




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#20 26-Oct, 2009 12:17 PM
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this what a stranger with the same tyre upgradation i am lookin for said when i talked to him-

I was using 195/60 R15 and the spare wheel fit into the spare wheel's slot well. However, it will be a bit tight and will also bulge out a bit. Other than that there are no other issues what so ever.

I have now upgraded to 205/55 R15 and since the spare wheel does not fit in the slot well, I have gone for  14 tyres only. The spare wheel is 185/70 R14 which is stock on the ZXi.

With regards to ride quality, the 195s have the best ride and are the best and maximum upgrade one should go for on the Swift. Eventhough I have upgraded to 205 S-Drives which look amazing but do compromise on ride quality a bit, I will definitely be going back to 195s during my next tyre change.

so what do u think dr.abyshines? well others too are most welcome to give their opinions (i was just being a li'l specific coz dr.abyshines seems to be prompt in replying, hehe!)so i can go for a 5 tyre upgrade now right? i dont mind that slight bulge in the extra tyre compartment.

Post edited to remove the 'Bold' formatting-MODS



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